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#428474 12/04/15 08:03 PM
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Hello Gentlemen:

I found this shotgun for sale.
I only know that A.W. is for Albert Wilhelm, that was made in Suhl when Germany was divided (DDR) and that I liked it because it seems very well built and it is almost new.
12-70, ejectors, full and extrafull chokes and sideplated as you can see in the photos.
I do not find any reference in the blue book or Internet.

Could you give me information about the brand name, quality and value?

Thank you for any input.

Best regards,











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Compares to a Merkel 122 or Simson 76E.

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these are great guns, very good internal finishing, this looks like a model XXXT even though these were made in GDR it is a very well made and finished guns mc

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Here you find what you want to know:

http://www.jagdwaffen-wolf.de/geschichte.html

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Gunwolf

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Bests translation I could do, someone please clean this up for us.

Our 100-year-old tradition of building hunting weapons and the masterful skills of our employees put us in a position to meet all individual needs of our customers. All our weapons are unique, so art in steel and wood.
The effect of Wolf hunting weapons is based on the skilful interplay of secure functionality, the beauty of engraving and Gunstock and the high appearance of the natural product walnut.
Our Cronik

1908: Company founded by Albert Wilhelm Wolf
1945: production of alternative products such as door locks and Poppy mills
Are hunting weapons may again produced (excluding intake rifles and shotguns): 1947
1948: the company increased its number of employees to 50
1949 AW Wolf leaves the shotgun "model patented in 1950" and sells them in large numbers abroad
1956 permission is granted the application for extension of the product range
1960: the company has to absorb a state participation for political reasons
1965: after the deposition of the company founder, his son Walter Wolf, the company
1972: the company is entirely assumed by the State
1978: after the deposition of Walter Wolf takes over Gerhard Lin the company management
1990: re-privatization of the company by the granddaughter of the founder (Christel Lin born Wolf) and her husband
1995: The company moves into the Suhler Black waterway
2008: 100-year anniversary

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Skeettx, very nice translation! If you go to the "Service" site you can download on the right side a complete Story about the Wolf history.

http://www.jagdwaffen-wolf.de/service.html

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DDR gun expert in Russia rate Wolf guns very highly, especially sidelocks. Apparently, they were just about the only outfit in Suhl at the time who patterned and regulated their barrels, so Wolfs were highly sought after by those goose hunters who didn't like repeaters.

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The seller ask around $2,600 US dollars for it.
Do you think that it is a fair price?
You can see the photos; it is in very, very good condition.
I like the shotgun, but the price is high.
Please I need your educated advise!

Thank you,


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Para mi, demasiado caro.

While I like the bold scroll w/stippled background-contrast, the dog and ducks have an unfortunate cartoon-like lack of delicacy that is very common in German guns of the period just before and after WWII. I have a "Nazi Simson" with those same ducks.

Guns of this design are very strong and unlikely to shoot loose with modern loads, a very good thing.

But for me, this just isn't a $2600 gun. However, the market in Mexico MAY make it much rarer and more desirable there than it would be here in the US where doubles are (presumably) in greater supply and easier to buy. I'd say it's a $1500-1600 gun here.

Just my opinion and likely worth every cent you paid for it....

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In Germany you can find one for about 800 - 1000 EURO:

http://www.waffen-helfer.de/Langwaffen/F...tenplatten.html

The sidelock version for 2500 EURO:

https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt/langwaffen~flinten/6p74992r_merkel_suhl-merkel_147s__seitenschloss-dfl.html?s=1&s_t=Merkel&o=neu

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Gunwolf


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