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#4603 10/05/06 03:37 PM
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I found a H&R Handy-Gun, 12 3/4" barrel for sale. It is located in another state.

I spoke with my dealer, who stated he did not believe he could handle the transfer.

So, I called ATF. The Handy-Gun is classified as an AOW (Any Other Weapon) by the NFA. This one does have the $5 stamp, so it is legal to own.

However, according to ATF only a Class 3 dealer can submit the paperwork. (Though they admit that on the form it does not state a Class 3 is required.) An ATF form 4, co-signed by local law enforcement, a set of finger prints, etc are required as part of the application. I was willing to go through all this.

Then I asked ATF for a name of a Class 3 dealer in Illinois. No dice! They will not release any information. Something about a past lawsuit. So, I asked how would I go about finding a Class 3 dealer.

"Well call up every FFL in the state and ask them if they have a Class 3." "Ok, can I get that list?" "No, look in the phone book."

I am about to surrender to the pencil rodents. Does any one know of a Class 3 dealer in northern Illinois who is willing to handle a transfer?

Pete

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Pete,
If you have a C&R or FFL this gun could be transfered directly to you via form 4, one tax paid
. Otherwise a class 3 dealer in Illinois will have to get it transfered to him from the state you are getting it from. If it is comming from a non class 3 dealer the tax will have to be paid (on a form 4)once to your dealer and then again (on a from 4)from your dealer to you.
I am a class 3 dealer in Nebraska. If you have any questions give me a call. 402-366-4998 cell.
I am in harvest right now so my cell is about the only way to get me.
Ross
PS Here are a couple Illinois class 3 dealers that I found in Small Arms Review.
Class 3:
Hawk Arms Monmouth IL, 309-734-4867 hawkncat@maplecity.com


R Guns Carpentersville IL,847-428-3569 rguns@voyager.net






#4605 10/05/06 06:32 PM
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Ross,

Thank You very much. I am in particular hurry. But I will give you a call.

The ATF was very helpful, friendly in fact, until it came to releasing the dealer information.

Pete

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Go over to subguns.com and ask for a dealer they will get you one.

Hurry is not in he NFA dictionary. F4's take time up to 6 months or more but some are having faster service since their move to WV

#4607 10/07/06 03:43 PM
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reb87,

Just got off the phone with the folks at R Guns. Everything is fine. Now only a matter of paperwork.

Again Thanks!

Pete


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