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Personally, I would never pay $4.5k for a model 23 when one can easily find a Parker repro in 20 gauge for about that. I am now looking at a 20 gauge repro for less than $4.5k; 28 gauges are a coupla hundred to a thousand more. The 20 gauge weighs 6.5 pounds, has nice DHE style engraving and good triggers.

IMHO although well made, the model 23 has none of those things and are really overweight and klunky.
Each to his own poison I suppose.
YMMV

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It was heavy had through bolt in stock often resulting in rather poor metal to wood fit and single inertia trigger if I recall correctly. It is shocking what people will pay for these things. One can get SKB including newer choke-tubed 385s and 485s for whole lot less.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
It was heavy had through bolt in stock often resulting in rather poor metal to wood fit and single inertia trigger if I recall correctly. It is shocking what people will pay for these things. One can get SKB including newer choke-tubed 385s and 485s for whole lot less.


The triggers are mechanical, not inertia.

I've owned a couple and handled several more, all had very good wood to metal fit. The 20 ga. Pigeon Grade "Lightweight" I briefly owned differed from the standard Pigeon only in having a straight grip. It was definitely heavy, nearly 7 lbs., almost as heavy as my brother's 12 ga. standard Pigeon -- which at an ounce or two over 7 lbs. wasn't heavy at all for a 12 with 3" chambers.

In the 90s my primary pheasant hunting gun was a 12 ga. M-23 made for the European market, and I'd still be using it except for a more recent 16 ga. addiction. It's very different from U.S. market guns, weighs less than 6-3/4 lbs., has lighter 28" fixed choke barrels with solid swamped rib, 70 mm. chambers, very slender straight grip stock and splinter FE, long tang, checkered rosewood buttplate. I've used it only for hunting, never noticed anything amiss with the trigger.

I've posted these pics before, but I think elsewhere ....

Jay




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