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#392362 01/31/15 08:52 PM
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Just a thought concerning the statement that is so oft heard/read, that the screws on such and such a gun have never been turned. Really? I believe very strongly that there are gunsmiths so good at what they do, who use exactly the right turnscrews, in exactly the right manner, that they can disassemble a gun, clean and (or) repair it, and reassemble it with absolutely no evidence of the "screws ever having been turned".

Agree or disagree?

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I would think if you got a gun back from a gunsmith, and there was "evidence" the screws had been turned, you ought to reconsider your choice of gunsmith.

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I agree for the same reason as the good 'ol boy who, when asked did he believe in infant baptism, replied "sho, I've seen it done".

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My thoughts....
If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
I disagree.
Even the roughest guns without a screw turned often bring more money than those 'properly' cleaned and tuned.
I find it obvious.

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When I read that I just consider it a statement that no moron, with a fifty cent screw driver, has buggered up the gun. I agree a well fitting turn-screw, used with care by a competent person, can leave no mark. When I read that and see that the screws are out of timing I wonder.... Did they not do it right at the factory or has it been fiddled with but put back with care so that there is just a trail of crumbs to follow. Saw such a gun yesterday. Left screw on floor plate was at 11:50 and right was at 12:05. They might have been switched or just not put back to 12:00.

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I was certain that my D.M Lefever crossbolt had never had a screw turned. But while reading some old DGJ articles on these guns, I was surprised to see the gun I had bought pictured in an article by Oregon gunsmith Keith Kearcher. The stock and trigger plate were removed to show the innards. Mr. Kearcher did not leave the slightest trace that he had ever touched this gun with a screwdriver. It takes both proper tools and proper technique, but it is routinely done by talented smiths, and even careful amateurs who make the effort to do things right.

Agree completely Stan. I just wish more people knew their limitations.


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Originally Posted By: R.R.
My thoughts....
If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
I disagree.
Even the roughest guns without a screw turned often bring more money than those 'properly' cleaned and tuned.
I find it obvious.


Then you are truly a gifted man. I agree with Mr. Rowe.

IMO, the only way to know for sure is to have always owned the gun yourself, or had intimate knowledge of it. I could care less if the screws have been turned since it was built. What I care about is how carefully it was done.

SRH

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If care has been used to remove and replace the screws then it would lead me to believe, that care was used while working on the inside.
Many guns that I open with chewed up screws, show signs that Buba
did just as good on the inside with his 1 screwdriver and hammer that he had in his tool box.
A person with proper tools and experience can work on a gun, and leave no evidence that any work has been done.


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