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Is there a difference between the proper LOP of a SXS and an O/U? The reason I ask is because my 1923 LC Smith is going to the gunsmith today or tomorrow for a restore. The stock is an aftermarket Fajen stock with a 15 in LOP from the HOT single selective trigger. It seems a little long for me, but I shoot the gun well. Since the gun will be getting a new plate or pad, I was going to have the stock cut a little closer to my liking at the same time. My O/U's all have a 14.5 inch LOP and they seem to fit fine. I'm pretty average sized at 5'10 and 195lbs. I was thinking about taking my LC down to 14.5 inches as well, but figured I'd ask you guys first. I do not have time to get a fitting, and as long as the fit is close, I don't think it's necessary for a field gun.
Thanks in Advance
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I don't think OU vs sxs makes a difference. What does make a difference, however, is the position of the single trigger. Some are very close to the rear of the trigger guard, much like the rear trigger on a DT gun. Others are much farther forward. I'm mostly a DT guy, and on some of those with a good bit of space between the single trigger and the guard, I'll occasionally forget it's a ST gun and find myself pulling the guard for a 2nd shot. Never seems to work, no matter how hard I pull!
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That's not as bad as me trying to pump my O/U or SxS after shooting my 870! Thanks!
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When I was fitted, there was 1/4" less LOP for OUs vs. SxS - some but not a huge amount.
But to echo Larry's point, DT vs. ST also needs to be taken into consideration.
Last edited by Doverham; 12/29/14 10:49 AM.
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When I had Coles in Maine replace my Beretta 686 single trigger with a double trigger the length of pull was extended by a half inch. Had to cut the stock and re-install the Beretta pad to get it to where I could shoot it again...Geo
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Length of pull is very dependent on one thing: the grip type and shape, which dictates where you grasp the gun with your trigger hand, and the resulting distance from that point to the trigger, known as the "reach", which also determines the distance to the butt. Just as important, as Larry mentioned, is where the trigger is positioned inside the guard
Based on your height and it being a field gun, I would say shorten it to 14 1/2, especially since it isn't original wood.
L.o.p. should have been re-defined a long time ago as the distance from the middle of the grip where your palm hits it, to the butt.
JR
Last edited by John Roberts; 12/29/14 01:33 PM.
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FWIW in your decision, L C's HOT's were build in three different positions----rear-13-1/4" LOP, middle-13-3/4" LOP, front-14-14" LOP.
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There are no rules for length of pull. It shouldn't be too short or too long. How's that for helpful? In general, the straighter the grip the longer the LOP can be and still feel comfortable. How long a pad is on the gun now, if any? You could have a 0.6 pad put on with a LOP of 14.5" and have another 1" pad fitted. Shoot the gun with both pads and see which one you prefer. You can even switch pads depending on the seasons with the shorter one for late fall/winter when you have more clothes on.
If you are unsure of your exact dimensions and are having a new stock made have the gun stocked 1/8" to 1/4" high and 1/4" to 1/2" long and have the stock maker put just a couple coats of finish on. Shoot the gun for awhile and then start taking it down and/or shortening it and keep shooting. This is the ultimate way to get a custom stock made and is worth the time considering the financial investment. Different guns have different points of impact depending on barrel regulation, how they move under recoil and SxS with very light, long barrels can experience barrel flip. All of these things will affect the drop at face. Let us know what you decide and how it turns out.
Regards,
Jeff
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Grip style rather than SxS vs O/U is the determining factor. When Chris Batha measured me he gave me three LOPs: 15 3/8" for straight grip, 15 1/8" for POW grip and 14 7/8" for pistol grip. I have found that these measurements have worked out very well for me. Most O/Us are pistol grip and many SxSs are straight grip, hence the general recommendation tha SXS stocks should be longer.
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I face the same problem with o/u adjustable triggers. I find the best thing is to duplicate the guy's favorite gun and forget barrel type. When I shoot a sxs with a vent rib I don't know what type of gun I am shooting..
bill
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