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have pretty much totally stopped even shooting shotguns but did pick up a Perazzi recently just because it was cheap (and because the best engineered best built shotgun I ever owned was an mx8 and nothing Winchester or browning ever made could touch it). no model markings, no importer markings, but date code puts it at 1970 and as near as I can determine it's an MX8 comp I skeet gun. has the ported barrels and odd chokes described and pictured in shooter's bibles of that time frame. as near as I can determine that choke perazzi put in those guns was their version of the tula choke. anyone have any experience with these on a perazzi, specifically how well they perform? and can I assume the current fad in shotguns is still for unnecessarily long barrels and a 26" barrel skeet gun is going to be tough to get rid of?
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Maybe the best time to answer your question about the "current fad" in barrel lengths would have been before writing the check, not after. Especially if you bought it just to try and turn a buck or two on it.
Regardless, you might get more objective answers by not framing the question in such a way as to alienate those who favor longer barrels right off the bat.
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The market for short barrel Skeet guns is very poor at best. Current long barrel Movement is in its third decade and shows no letup. No writer like O'Conner is preaching short barrels as the best gun for birds and Skeet. Enjoy your gun but resale most likely will not be easy unless very low selling pride is sought. Which is why you bought it in the first place.
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Unnecessarily long for who? If you prefer short barrels for use, hey, congrats, you hit a home run. But, some guys prefer longer tubes, and shoot better with them. I would think the porting would make it a tougher sell. Those chokes work just fine, you will still have to do some work at the pattern board to find out what load works best-maybe you will be doing some more shooting with a shotgun in the future. For most of us, that would be good news. Good luck.
Best, Ted
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In reference to your description of the model it is EITHER an MX 8 (unlikely) or Comp I. Two distinct frame treatments (primary visual difference is sculpted frame on MX 8) smooth side contour on Comp I. Both detachable trigger group guns of the era.
Although most stocks of the era will interchange to some extent, the Comp stocks will not match up with the lower rear points of the action of a MX8. leaving the metal proud.
Most of the Skeet specific guns of this era sported slotted "Fish Gill" style ports behind the muzzle.
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mel5141has it right - either/or. Nice to note tho that MX8 spares retrofit the Comp 1 with no problem. It will effectively never wear out.
The Tula chokes are easily discerned by looking into the clean muzzle choke area. Nothing else looks like it. The shark-gill porting is factory on all Tula choke bbls AFAIK since I have a 90's Tula choked bbl with them still. And a '76 Mirage skeet same way. The bbls should not be 26" they are 70cm which is almost 28". Least every one I've seen was. The long bbls are super fad but WGAF? The long bbl bozos make for incredible buys on shorter bbl guns! Thank You, George Digweed!!!
Tula chokes were made for fiber wad loads and build up plastic pretty fast if you use plastic wads. Pattern-wise the chokes don't seem to care which in my experience.
A primo Comp1 Skeet will sell currently for +/-$2.5K but if you got a good buy why sell? For about 99.99% of skeet shooters you have as good a gun as $ can buy.
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Friend of mine has had a Perazzi MX7 Sporting for sale through a consignment dealer for some time. Good web site good seller. Its the metric barrel, just under 30 inches and ported. Gun has sat unsold for a long time.
While I admire Perazzis one thats not right for me is not attractive, to me. It's coming off consignment, I could pick it up at a good price, same range that Wonko quoted . Rather shoot my Beretta SP III. Ported kills the deal.
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My SCIT has the slightly longer, but equally non-fashionable, 29.something" bbls. I like it just fine and don't care that it will not bring what the longer bbls get at resale.
Not arguing against longer bbls, and not saying the best shooters do not know what works. Someday when I grow up and am able to shoot 100 straight NSSA and high-90s NSCA - each and every outing - maybe I'll want longer bbls. Dunno.
Personally, do not like ports. But its more a problem for squadmates than for the shooter.
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The long bbl bozos make for incredible buys on shorter bbl guns! Thank You, George Digweed!!!
Dr.WtS And I am EQUALLY thankful that short barrel guys like you (bozos?) are so against long barreled guns. If ya'll liked long barrels there would be many less for us (bozos) to choose from. SRH
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mel5141 and WTS, THANKS! in reading what little info I have (old shooter's bibles) I had not picked up on the fact that the comp I was a distinct model and not just a version of the mx-8. I thought the basic action design was the determinate of the model. yes, it does have the shark gill porting and I had assumed the first time I looked at it that the chokes were totally screwed up as a choke gage went all the way in but after looking it up I realized they came that way for a reason. this one's nice, shows almost no use, still has most of the cheezy perazzi "case coloring", no blue wear on the trigger guard, good checkering, etc. has quite decent wood for a perazzi, not as good as the trap gun I used to have but not as drab as many seem to have, and has the factory hard case. comb is dead straight, something like 1-11/16" drop at nose and heel both. have still not had a chance to shoot it. I wish someone would write a good book on perazzi's like the superposed, m21, etc. but it'd probably cost a fortune.
thanks roger
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