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Looking for around 1 1/4 oz load using Steel powder. I use it in 2 3/4 12 1 oz loads but have a 10 I would like to try for pass shooting snow geese.

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Good question, Mike. If it's an old 2 7/8" full-choked double, the last thing you want is a barrel and rib separating bulge in the barrel (or worse) when large, non-compressible steel shot tries to muscle through a tight constriction, shoulder to shoulder.

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It will be open chokes with no more than # 2s with steel shot cup. The steel powder in the 12 gives low pressure with good results around 1400 fps

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It this for your Beretta 10Ga 3 1/2 with single trigger and chrome lined barrels?

I did find a 1 1/4 load here for the long hull
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/RecipeList.aspx?gauge=10&gtypeid=10&shotype=1

Mike

Non-Toxic Shotshell Hull,10 Gauge 3 1/2-in. Rem (yellow base wad)
1 1/4 shot wt. •Steel • Primer,Fed 209A •Wad,Precision Reloading TUPRW105

Dram Equiv. Shot Wt.(ounces) Shot Type Velocity (fps) Primer Powder Wad Grains Approx. psi
1 1/4 Steel 1,590 Fed 209A Steel Precision Reloading TUPRW105 50 9,800

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i was going to say something about steel shot in a short ten eek

then i reread and saw he is asking for recipes for Aliants Steel POWDER

not aware of any low pressure short ten loads using that

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Just did a scan of the BP Advantages Manual, latest edition.
No Steel powder recipes. About 25 recipes for ITX shot with a low pressure of 7600 to highs of 10500. Only 4 steel shot recipes, but only 7/8 oz. The ITX shot recipes are from 1 1/8 to 1 3/8 oz. I don't have any Nice shot recipes, but be prepared to shell out bucks for Nice shot. In the ITX recipes, I see PB, Clays, Herco, Int'l Clays, SR7625, SR4756 and Universal Clays. I read on the 16 gauge forum (ammo and reloading section) that PB is being discontinued as well as 7625. There were some moans about 7625 being a good low pressure powder in the short 10. Gil

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If you read the old Serman Bell DGJ articles giving short 10 loads 7625 was one of the most common. Hopefully I have enough to cover hunting needs.

The trouble is that no one gives loads for short tens for any new powder

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Assemble a range of loads with the powder, wad and shot of your choice using currently available data and send them off to Tom Armbrust for pressure/velocity testing. Try to bracket what you think would be the correct combination. You might contact Tom for some guidance on that.

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In BP's Status of Steel Revision 8.2 They listed 2 7/8 Winchester Fiber Base Wad
Fio Primer 616 Powder HS-6 42.8 Wad BPD10-Tuff Plus 2 1/4 12 ga Wool felt in base of shot cup & thin mylar wrap
1 1/4 Oz of steel
Press 10300 Vel 1410 Temp range 70F to 10F
I have used this load in the past it it performs OK

There were two other short 10s with the fiocchi 10 hulls shortened but as I
remember Fiocchi quit making the hull.
I do have a Beretta single trigger 3 1/2 10 but I like the 2 7/8 gun better for handling.

With 1 1/4 oz bismuth I shoot 30 grains of Long shot in the 2 7/8 Winchester Hull
using BPs gas seal 10x and a SP 10 wad. I usually load it with # 5s. I do not have the data for this load but have it somewhere in my notes that it was tested.

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