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Thanks Gunwolf. Both the name Louis Delp and the use of the term Hofbchsenmacher are parts of the puzzle. Delp made high quality hammer guns in the 1890s and maybe some hammerless guns later. Certainly Louis was long gone by 1949. Also, the "gunmaker to royalty" distinction was another anachronism. I continue to wonder why would both would appear on a post WW2 gun which appears out of its time period as well as its place of origin.
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John O-O, I think it was quite usual for the descendants of Louis Delp using the impressive title of "Hofbchsenmacher" as a marketing tool! It was their Brand. By the way it wasn't the court of the german emperor but of course that of the princedom, later dukedom of Hessen-Darmstadt! I find this which shows that they use of course many sources for their guns: Sauer&Sohn/Louis Delp Very interesting history in each case! Best Regards, Gunwolf
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Interesting post. Thanks!
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I did a bit more research and found that after WW2 West Germans couldn't own guns until 1956. Their proof house reopened in 1952 and several gunmakers were operating by then. This all suggests that guns then (like mine) were made for export.
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Actually John, it wasn't a "reopening" of a proofhouse in West Germany, but rather the establishment of a new one. Sauer, previously located in Suhl (East Germany), relocated to Eckernforde after the war. There had never been a proofhouse in Eckernforde previously, and it was opened basically because that's where Sauer--by far the largest gunmaker in West Germany--was located.
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John, According to an old hunting magazine from January 1951, German hunters were allowed aquisition of shotguns by 1950. At that time rifled arms were not generally permitted, but I'm quite sure this changed in or about 1953 when Sauer and Krieghoff started "mass-production" of their respective drillings.
With kind regards, Jani
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