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Pr - if you are considering getting on a USA bound airplane with a gun in tow you need to do a few things. You need good proof that it is an antique if you think so. You don't need to declare it in Customs, but you do need to be ready to defend it if you draw an inspection. If it is not an antique, you WILL need an ATF6. To have the ATF6, the gun must have been decided on about 2 to 3 months before you leave so you have time to get the approved form back from ATF. Since the Form is specific to S/N and description of a particular gun, the purchase decision must be made ahead of time. Should you avail yourself of SB's offer to "shoot it there," should decide against the purchase, simply cancel the ATF6 on your return. If you go the ATF6 route, you will also need a letter from a FFL appointing you to act as his agent. Go through the "Goods to Declare" part of Customs, stop by your FFL and have him write the gun in his books, return the ATF6 and enjoy.

While a bit unnerving for most people, this is doable. If you enjoy "the hunt," this is not a bad way to go and can be quite an experience in its own right.

BTW, living in Woodward, OK, makes you a candidate to shoot/collect James Woodward's products - obviously.

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Good advice there from Rockeman - he has done it so he knows from your end what to worry about.

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Good buys are to be found at auctions in the U.K.. In particular 12,G, Boxlock none ejectors, by Birmingham or Provincial makers are very good value. An auction report in the D.G.J. Winter, 2006, gives the following sale result:
Edwinson Green 12,G. B.L.N.E and A. Hill 12,G. B.L.N.E sold for a combined price of 130 pounds stirling.Both guns would be be in legal proof at time of sale , Most auction houses will upon request, provide pictures and report on condition of guns prior to auction. The purchasor of the above guns reports; " After minor tidying," took these guns out for a days shooting and accounted for 85 pigeons."
To make a purchase in the U.K. you will need to obtain both export and import licences. A U.K.auctioneer recently quoted 3-500 pounds per gun [Much more than the cost of the guns!!!] to take care of export arrangements and air freight.So if you consider this option, be prepared for these costs and the frustrating task of obtaining permits.


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Thanks for all the great info and offers, guys. I'm not quite ready to buy yet, but I'm definitely saving my pennies for an English double whether I buy it here on in London...

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