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It isn't so much a stock built for a scope, Michael........it's a stock that's built for shooting from an inclined rest. The relationship of "eye" to "cheek weld" to "shoulder" can only fit the anatomical arrangement of that position. The cheek weld is actually lower than the shoulder.......a position which is diametrically opposed to any off-hand shooting position.......and only in any correct alignment when the spine is angled forward to bring the shoulder above the cheek in a shooting position.

This stock design is a derivative of the "straight" stock which was designed to lessen recoil. It was further developed to accommodate recoil from the inclined rest.

The real deficiency of this stock design, and it's development history, is the loss of the eye being placed to the sight at a 90 degree angle. It is the opinion of the design proponents that this deficiency is unimportant with the advent of scopes, and the advantages they possess.

It is not uncommon to see this stock design used in hunting situations with the stock being placed against the shoulder as much as 3" elevation to accommodate the anatomical requirements for off-hand shooting.

There are a myriad of pictures on the net to support the above. It is decidedly a personal opinion how you feel about the design. I'm not a fan.

That notwithstanding.........I believe Jim Kobe is an outstanding example of the craftsman who produce quality work under the American Custom Gunmakers Guild.

This is the shooting position the above stock most readily adapts to.

The angled spine sets the shoulder higher than the cheek weld, and better enables the eye to face the scope sight.

The stock at issue in this thread would be a much better candidate than the one in this particular picture.

HUH??????? I'm sure you know what you're talking about, but all I know is I have a very similar 7X57 rifle and I can shoot it just fine. I guess my spine's out of whack, but I did find it interesting!

I'll agree with Michael on this one. Of course, every rifle I build (or have on the project list) is set up for iron sight position shooting under field conditions. Benchrest efficiency is not the driving factor here. Low combs and more drop at heel suit me fine. The last new M70 Featherweight I owned had a Lyman 48 and nothing else and my-oh-my, the looks I got at the gun range from the 'sniper wanna be' cognoscenti...

Don't really know the proper meaning of "modern" but here is my 7X57 which is not quite finished yet.

Yup that's modern.

Nice rifle too.

Here are some shots of a recently delivered spec gun, done as requested by the client. A similar treatment in wood and metal, done on a 1903 in 25-06