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When a firearm is bought or sold used and an inspection period is given is part of the inspection process normally shooting the firearm if permission hasn't been asked? Thanks for any opinions
Parris George
GOOD SHOOTING! Parris George
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Those that I have delt with have stipulated if firing was OK. I have never had anyone say no when I have asked them. Past experience is usually the driver for buyer and seller opinions unless the question is asked and answered ahead of time.
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I look at firing as the last part of the inspection. I also believe in cleaning the gun should you return it.
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Are you referring to taking it apart to clean? Do your inspections incluce taking the gun apart and checking for wear, etc?
So many guns, so little time!
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I meant cleaning the barrels.
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I'd strongly suggest checking out the insides or have a GOOD gunsmith check the gun out. Also if you breake you payee. jas
Currently own two Morgan cars. Starting on Black Powder hunting to advoid the mob of riflemen.
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Some sellers are happy for you to take the gun away and shoot it, inspect it and consider it. Others happy to let you shot it but only in their sight. Some are unhappy to let it leave the shop unless it is sold.
I recently went at the request of a client to inspect a pair of guns at the Beretta Gallery in London and they told me they would not allow independent inspection (said it was 'insulting' -either the buyer trusted them and bought from them or he could go elsewhere. I advised him to do just that and he did.
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Unless you ask permission to shoot the gun you should not assume that you can. Standard inspection is a visual inspection only unless you get precise clearance otherwise. I have seen more than one gun returned with buggered screws from a poorly preformed inspection. Most defects can be seen if you know what to look for. Function is the only thing that you can not see and requires a shooting demonstration.
The seller has to assume that you have the correct, safe, shells to shoot the gun. I have asked and been told no by some and yes by others. Most will go along if you let them know that you are only interested in shooting safe factory shell to check the gun point of aim or chokes, or function. But if they say no you should either agree and respect their wishes or pass on the gun.
I have seen a couple of guns that were returned after shooting when a non-shooting inspection was clearly agreed to by both parties. One was a new unfired gun in the box and the breech face was blemished from the shell and primers rubbing, plus the idiot did not bother to even clean the barrels. He still denied the fact that he had shot the gun. The seller showed me the gun just as he unpacked it. To say he was pissed would not come close to his near rage. That buyer could not buy crap from that seller ever again even if he paid in solid gold.
It all comes down to respect. Respect the sellers rights and wishes and he should allow you to test the gun is a safe manner. But remember that in most transactions the seller has both your money and his gun at some point. Screw around with the gun and it will be hard to get all of your money back. And rightlfully so, if you damaged the gun by your actions.
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We had a long thread about this a couple years ago. The consensus was to discuss it beforehand, unless it was spelled out in the description. IMO, test firing to verify POI should be allowed, using proper ammo, of course.
> Jim Legg <
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What I usually find works for both parties is to say to serious buyers is 'meet at XXX gun club and we'll shoot a round of skeet together and see how you get on with the gun'.You have to use judgement to see who is 'serious' and who just fancies lots of rounds of skeet with other peoples' best guns!
If you are in a big gun shop, they may be less inclined to do this with middle -price guns but if you are planning to spend big money, they really need to accommodate you.
I think it entirely reasonable for a seller not to allow an amateur to take away a gun worth thousands and try taking it to bits and to supervise any test firing of the gun before money has changed hands.
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