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I'd say it is limited only by the gas in your torch or when you get tired of dropping them in the annealer or when your wife calls you to dinner. I don't know that I've ever had more than a 100 at a time that I wanted to anneal after shooting them at a match and wanting to get them ready to reload.

Good Info.... I really don't think I will have that many right off as I look to have the >>Perfekt Storm<< of Cartridge Cobblin' with the 6,5X70R Sauer and the 6,5X61R vom Hofe Super Express coming together @ the same time. So......, if I were to actually make cases for both, what is the best Parent Cases to acquire¿

Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

So, it appears that the 6,5X70R Czech(Sauer-your choice) sported an 8,2 gramme bullet and jumped out of the gate @ 700 m/s.

Anyone hazard a guess @ a commercial produced bullet or is a bullet mold the best way to go¿¿¿¿¿

Lep Pozdrav,

Raimey
rse

Interesting cartridge 6,5X65R:

>>Tento náboj zavedla firma Sauer a Sohn, Suhl jako jeden z řady loveckých kulových nábojů s kónickou nábojnicí, koncem prvního desítiletí 20.stol. Laborován byl od počátku bezdýmným prachem. Byl podstatně méně úspěšný, než daleko známější náboj z této řady 6,5 x 58 R (SSC) proti kterému vykazoval o málo vyšší výkon. V katalogu fy. RWS byl nabíjen ještě v r.1935.<<




https://naboje.org/en/node/12061#

Lep Pozdrav,

Raimey
rse

>>Dříve velmi populární lovecký náboj neznámého původu. S největší pravděpodobností se jedná o náboj vzniklý v Rakousku někdy na přelomu 19. a 20. století. Náboj byl používán ve zbraních s lůžkovým závěrem, což jsou zlamovací zbraně jako brokovnice a trojáky. Vyráběn byl firmami Sellier & Bellot, Povážskými strojírnami a G. Rothem. Po 2. světové válce byl ještě nějakou dobu vyráběn, ale rychle zastaral.

Střela o hmotnosti 8,2 g má počáteční rychlost 700 m/s.<<



https://naboje.org/en/node/3739#

Lep Pozdrav,

Raimey
rse

For .261", I would mention Johannsen (they took over Siegfried Stoklossa's old equipment) and Sax (lead-free monolithic copper, with driving bands). There are certainly more.

Carcano

So Johannsen on Siegfried Stoklossa's old equipment is making bullets that are commercially available¿¿¿


Lep Pozdrav,

Raimey
rse

Raimey,
I just resize 90 to 95grain .264" bullets to .261 for my 6,5x48R and 6.5x58R.You can do the same, it would even be an enjoyable experience. The original bullet was 123 gr. round nose. The 90 and 95 grain bullets I had access to were spitzer, boattail type. I believed available 120+grain bullets might be too long for my rifles' rifling twist. I may explore heavier bullet options later.
Bullets shouldn't be much problem, but cases for the 6.5x70 R will be problematic. Except for 6x70R Krieghoff, which is both scarce and is a hair short (acceptable) after forming, there is no common case that can be formed to 6.5x70 with traditional handloader's equipment. Bertram 6.5x70 R cases are advertised but are seldom "in stock". Also they are very expensive. You show a 6.5x65R which is much different than the 6.5x70R and cannot be conveniently converted to 6.5x70R. I use 30-30 cases fo 6.5x48R and original length 38-55 cases for 6.5x58R. However if you need 6.5x65R cases, I believe the best bet would be to shorten and form 9.3x72R to 6.5x65R. BTW, I'm not sure if the 6.5x65R is a Sauer cartridge of if developed by someone else. The 6.5x58R is usually shown as the longest of the Sauer 6.5mm cartridges.
Mike