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Lowell Your reputation preceeds you.
Chuck They may not be in the same catagory as the new Parker but they also are not in the same catagory as Parkers made by either Parker or even Remington in the late 30's or early 40's. The Remington 28 AAHE Parker that are being built for Remington are not genuine Parkers just like the new Fox are not genuine Fox guns. They may be a like or even better made than some of the originals but they are not of that line. The Parker line for the most part ended when they were sold to Remington and for sure when Remington stopped making them in the 40's. The reproductions are just that and this new reproduction is still not a real Parker to me.
I admit that I would gladdy accept one as a gift but would not claim that it was real or original. As to the price, you get what people are willing to pay and I suspect that Mr. Galazan would charge just as much if he was making them to sell himself. There is a lot of money out there, just not in our pockets.
With todays CNC equipment it would be possible to make a Bossy, Lidnder, Woodward, Purdery, Lefever Oppostimus grade or any other fancy gun. But it will never be an original. Just a nock off, no matter the price. The question is, is it a good thing that Remington is making a few guns that never will be shot or enjoyed? Because I expect the total production of a dozen a year to quickly be stored away in a safe to become the newest closet queens, not to be shot and enjoyed as guns. These are trophies for the rich.
It neither improves Remingtons profit margin that much or enables them to make more guns in the future. I suspect this was all done to keep Remingtons claim on the Parker name a valid claim and to prevent any future infringment on the Parker name. That or one of the execs at Remington really wanted a 28 AAHE and could not admit that one of Americas largest gun makes could not figure out how to build it in house. For that matter they are building everything else over seas, I forsee an Italian or Turkish AAHE and that will make me want to puke.
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Well..... one would think so!
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Well said KY John. I can think of a few other reasons Remington is dabbling in the new AAHE but none of them are particularly commendable or noteworthy.
Turkish or Spanish Parkers? That would be an improvement over what's coming. I predict in our lifetimes we will see a Parker knockoff lining the shelves of Cabela's and Bass Pro produced in the land of our new owner's - the Chinese.
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Within 10 years, the way China is going. Consider that RBLs are only $3,000. That's a real achievement in our economy. China has all the CNC stuff and labour costs only a fraction of ours. I wouldn't be surprised to see Purdey-quality firearms from China within 10 years---if they put their mind to it and there's a market.
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In ten years I do not think that you will see higher end products being made on the cheap in China. The standard of living and thus labor costs are rising quickly in China.
Eventually Chinese production will turn inward to supply their own rising middle class. We may still see cheap plastic stuff, but not things like high end guns.
Actually this is not my observation but from a conversation with people who know far more about this then I ever will.
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The Chinese have something many other countries, including the US, do not - a government which is intent on seeing the country succeed. What this means is that the interests of individuals and of individual businesses are placed far behind what's good for the country as a whole.
The standard of living is rising in China only because the government is allowing it to do so. They'll decide when it stops rising, too.
The worst part of it all is that there will be a great deal of 'Americans' who run out and buy a Chinese made gun "as long as it's good quality".
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Tony, Lou and Earl are as helpful and nice as can be when you call them, in my dealings with them! Bobby
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These guys have been talking to the restless(irate)RBL natives, much too much.
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KY Jon, Then the Remington Parkers of the 40's are all reproductions, right? L.C. Smiths by Hunter Arms or Marlin must be reproductions. Winchesters made by Olin?
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The Remington Parkers are not reproductions; the gun never went out of production in the first place.
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