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I am ready to upgrade to a mid level spanish gun (4-6k) and have looked a every dealer on this sites gun rack. I am interested in Grulla, Arrieta and possible AYA. How much less than the asking price do these guns go out of the shop for? I don't want to look like a jerk offering $500 less than the asking price on a $4500 gun. I am fortunate that my stock measurements are close to standard. 1 1/2 2 1/2 15 lop so I don't have to get a bespoke gun and I can pick my wood.

It seems to me that the answer to your question is one word in your post.
That being "asking"
I have not been aware that shop dealers were so staunch in their pricing that they would be offended at an offer, made in earnest.
Perhaps the phrasing of the offer could go something like----
"I would very much like to order a gun from you and would do so, but have a locked in budget." If he/she wishes to entertain an offer, you will be asked what that limit is. This is the "go ahead" to be sensible and fair.
It may well be [possible to add some extras to the order that the dealer could include as a courtesy. That might be better than a 5/10% discount.
Hope these thoughts help.
Best,
John

I don't think your question has one answer. It's not a stupid question, just one that would vary from shop to shop, whether the gun is new or used, How long he's had the gun, on consignment or part of the dealer's inventory, how you conduct yourself and even how the dealer feels on that particular day. The polite way to test the water about negotiations might be something like, "is the price firm"?, "do you have any flexibility on the price"? or any similar phrase. If you start off with "I just love this gun and I have to have it" you can be sure there won't be any negotiations after that. As to your example, I wouldn't hesitate to offer $4000 for a used gun marked $4500, if you think $4000 is reasonable. You won't get $500 off on a new gun because there probably isn't that much margin in the price. One very important thing: if you make an offer, be prepared to whip out your money if it is accepted. Stand on your hind legs and back up your words. Don't come back with some crap about asking your wife, or some other getaway excuse. Making offers should be sincere and honored, just like an auction. If the gun says $4500, you offer $4000, dealer says OK, fercrysakes don't ask then if he'd take $3500. He'll be correct in telling you to go home to your playstation and don't come back unless you're accompanied by an adult.