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I am always interested in the "reasons why" something is done to a gun. I came across an Iver Johnson Hercules 12 gauge for cheap so I figured,what the heck. One of the reasons it was cheap is because it has a bolt through the wrist. What strikes me funny is that there are no cracks anywhere on the stock or forearm and actually it has a very nice figured stock for a Hercules. The stock isn't even beat up. I don't know if there are any cracks internally in the wrist as I didn't remove the stock yet. However, I did remove the bolt and there is no play or sloppiness with it removed. So what I am wondering is, was this type of thing usually done because of wear or cracks in the wrist area? I am wondering if at some point someone maybe just installed the bolt as a precautionary measure to prevent any cracks or splits from use as I am sure it probably saw some heavy loads through it in its day. I am thinking of gluing in a dowel instead of the bolt and to try and make the modification as invisible as possible.
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With the bolt removed, the crack is probably being held in place by some sort of years old household glue. It is not much of a mystery why the stock is not loose.
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May be someones idea of preventive medicine ?
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A walnut dowel of the same color will be less offensive, but checkered panels will hide it.
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A walnut dowel of the same color will be less offensive, but checkered panels will hide it. One of my shotguns has a bolt too. In my case the idiot who did it used the ugliest thing he had, a ten body piece of all-thread with a nut on each end.  Thanks for the idea Chuck. I'll mention this to my stock man.
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Why bother doing something that will leave the "repair" visible. Repair it correctly and cover the repair with a fillet.
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Anyone else ever notice how often these Iver Johnson Hercules had very nice wood on them? I bet I have seen one in four of them with what can only be described as upgraded wood. Most were nice feather crotch that would have been right at home on a Winchester 21.
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A walnut dowel of the same color will be less offensive, but checkered panels will hide it. One of my shotguns has a bolt too. In my case the idiot who did it used the ugliest thing he had, a ten body piece of all-thread with a nut on each end. Thanks for the idea Chuck. I'll mention this to my stock man. Actually, mine at least was tastefully done and doesn't look terrible. I see absolutely no cracks or evidence of repaired cracks on the exterior so I am thinking at this point that someone did it as "preventative medicine". I will be removing the stock shortly to have a look so that will tell the story.
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Well, I got the stock off and there are absolutely no cracks or evidence of repaired cracks of any kind on the interior or exterior. The wood in the wrist area is as sound as can be. So I am guessing that someone had the screw installed as a precautionary measure which is too bad but I guess it worked. As I mentioned earlier, the installation was tastefully done. It is a round thin brass headed screw and on the other side it is a round brass sleeve with internal threads that has been inlet into the wrist. This is a Canadian Iver Johnson, built at the Cooey plant in Cobourg, Ontario but that shouldn't have anything to do with it, unless someone requested it from the factory that way. Oh well, I guess I shall never know for sure. All I know is the stock is in very nice condition.
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