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Classic Guns use more wood charcoal than bone to produce less color and more bone to produce more colors. FWIW, Ken
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Originally posted by KY Jon:
Not the nicest looking colors that I have ever seen. But that gun is than nice enough to make up for them. Good wall thickness, shootable dimensions and choke that I like and shoot well. I would not let the colors stop me. Might consider removing them and leaving the action grey. We get too wrapped up in vivid colors sometimes and forget that all well hunted guns get dings, scratches and colors tend to fade over time. Certainly agree with you, but I thought we were discussing the case colors, not the merits of the gun, which obviously are many.
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I've never done any color case hardening, so could be wrong, but gut instinct would make me shy away. I've done enough work with torches throughout my life to see metal go past a certain point, and change completely, becoming weak and brittle. The light colors on that gun remind me of such unfortunate learning experiences. [Note the sharp edge of the action and the fences].
I'm not saying that is the case here, and it may be the camera, but it would be a no go for me.
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There is Stevens Faviorite I've seen several times at the Pittsburgh PGCA show that looks exactly the same as the gun M.Harney posted, might have been done by the same person.
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Originally posted by Ken Hurst:
Classic Guns use more wood charcoal than bone to produce less color and more bone to produce more colors. FWIW, Ken The source of the charcoal, the granule size and the moisture content of the charcoal can all play a part in the final colors. Also the height above the quench and the aeration. At least, that is what I was told. It may just be that this particular effect was asked for by the customer. What I find interesting, is the fore end iron looks blued, as does the trigger guard. Pete
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PETE M
Who did the color case job for you?
The buttplate and trigger guard held heat less time which caused the color change. I think the original # 1 picture probably was not brought up to temp
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Did Classic do your Color Case job?
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That's typically what happens when the parts come in contact with too much air during the quench,probably done by someone who was not very experienced in the process at the time, some people tend airate their quench water too violently and as a result expose the parts to too much air as the parts enter the water.
Nothing to do with temp or bone charcoal ratio, if you look at the picture carefuly, whatever colors are there they are vivid,..but the coverage is rather poor
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Fresh from Turnbull Restoration. Total turnaround, ten days, Montana to NY.  Engraving by Larry Peters.
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Steve,
Stunning! Now those are proper case colors. I love how the arcades came out, they really look good in color.
Cheers,
Michael
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