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I think you are being a little too detailed for other than a Competitive shooter.
Competition shooters always fiddle with their guns.
For upland shooting with all the options you have listed, you will chase your tail.
Find a fitter and have him determine your measurements with a 'Try Gun'. The rest is simple.-Dick

For those who haven't noticed, skeet is a special case. Do enuf reps on the same machines on the same field and you've got Nixon's bowling alley. There are guys who can break every bird on an American skeet field from the hip. No, not for 100X100 but with fair regularity. The visual and auditory cues are reinforced to the point where a fair skeet shooter can literally change the attitude of the gun and relationship with the hands and eyes and still make the moves to break targets. I haven't seen anyone attempt this afield with a live bird altho no doubt some kills have been accomplished without the butt hitting the shoulder.

Some folks believe the rote foot position, pre-mount, high comb and bullet head of skeet is not preparation for anything but skeet. The game may have been invented to simulate the experience of bird-hunting but it isn't bird hunting. I resist the idea that skeet has any importance whatsoever when shot with an actual "skeet gun".

jack

I have had the stock of every gun I own bent. I shoot them all as I get them, from sixteen yards and have the stocks bent to move the pattern to center and 60 percent above point of impact.

While each gun has had cast off bent into the stocks and some a change of drop at the heel, only three of all the guns in my safe are cast off the same and have the same drop. Yet nearly all of them have the same LOP. Some have the same cast off and different drop as others, some less and some more, leading me to believe a change in drop will affect cast off more than any other stock measurement.

All are either straight grip stocks or Prince of Wales.

Gun fit using only stock dimentions is going down a rather slipery slope. I could build you two stocks with the same dimentions with one fitting perfectly showing a minimum amount of recoil and the other rather ill fitting and being painful to shoot. The width of the comb, grip, straight vs pistol, and location of the pistol grip making a very large difference. A thick comb like so many of todays target guns calls for more cast, especially for those of us whose eyes are closer together. Placement of the pistol grip translates into keeping the thumb away from the nose during recoil. Size of the grip is designed to fit the persons hand and provide a comfortable and repeatable grip.

The bottom line, gun fit is much more than a set of numbers from a session with a try gun. Unless you have a fair amount of experience I would highly recommend getting some help from someone who has done a great deal of fitting. It will be the best money you ever spent.

And I would suggest not betting against an AA class skeet shooter in the bird fields. While skeet is a very regimented game with known birds and angles, it is indeed a great way to improve ones field shooting. It will take an experienced skeet shooter much less time to be effective game hunting than the fellow who is limited to field hunting only with todays bird populations and regulations. Don Hansen.