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Where there any American made over/under�s made in the late 1800�s or early 1920�s other than the Rem. 32?

Marlin made the Model 90. I believe it came out about the same time the Remington Model 32 did or later. Tom Mix, the silent cowboy actor, had one that was engraved for him. I think Marlin quite making it around the late 50s.

The Browning Superposed and the Remington Model 32 were both reviewed in The American Rifleman during 1932. The over/under Marlin made for Sears, aka the Marlin Model 90, appears in a November 1936 J.L. Galef catalogue, along with the Savage Models 420 and 430. Earlier American over/unders were primarily handmade flint-lock or percussion guns, or breechloaders finished up by custom makers on European actions.

My bad. That was single barrel...

Fred Adolph had a variety of overunders in the teens, and had an unusual patented design for one, but he was never able to get it manufactured. Most of his guns were sourced from Europe. Emil Flues made some overunders and I assume they were made in the 20s but I am not positive of that.

Here is the Browning patent:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=fzdJAAA...p;q&f=false



Pete

I was chasing Gustav Kersten( DRP No. 141334, 1902 ) and noticed that Emil Flues had a lockup that looks to have been loosely based on Gustav Kerstens( I think it was in 1914 but can't put my finger on it- Model One-Barrel Trap Gun-original bolting system):

http://www.google.com/patents?id=wJJfAAA...p;q&f=false

http://www.google.com/patents?id=4ONjAAA...ues&f=false

Also here's a rib advancement by Emil Flues:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=HN8ZAAA...ues&f=false

These appear to be on single tube guns but were either of these patents or both used on O/Us? It appears that the difficulty in reloading kept O/Us from taking off.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Raimey, I have pictures of a few Flues over/unders. From these I cannot tell about the rib, although they have ventilated ribs of some sort.

Mr. Hallquist:
You've piqued my interest with the Adolph patented design. I've read of a Fred Adolph lumpless/lugless design(not patented??) with side bearing surfaces and I guess something close would be that of Robert Schrader without the lumps. It appears that the idea was transferred or ran parallel with the Russian inventors, Nikolai I. Korovyakov & V.P. Ochnev, of the TOZ-34:

http://www.tulatoz.ru/en/toz34.html

The Fred Adolph design had a top lifter lever similar to that of the Powell lifter action that I think pushed a locking rod into the tubeset.

Did Fred Adolph work a stint at Ithaca before he took the train to his jumping off spot? Info has surfaced that Flues was involved in some bolt guns??

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

http://www.stevebarnettfineguns.com/frm_inventory1.htm in 20 bore category.

I wonder what the proofmarks show. It might be Merkel, Heym 132 or possibly an Adamy.



There's some story to be told of all involved, or not involved, like how integrated were Adolf, Flues, Kornbrath, Newton, Owen, etc. There were sourcing lines established to Germany for weapons by someone in these circle.

I wonder what year it was finished and how much effort was applied by Robert Griffith Owen.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse