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I took my 1894 the other day to run a couple of rounds through it at realized that my firing pins are dragging a little bit, enough to make the action hard to open up after firing.
From what i have read, this may mean my timing is off a little. How difficult is this to adjust, and is it something I should attempt myself?
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I think I'd try cleaning it first.
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cleaning the inside of the reciever? I just had it in to the gunsmith to have a firing pin replaced a few months ago, and the inside of the reciever was immaculate. could it just need some additional lube in there?
i typically keep the moving parts pretty well oiled, and it ejects snap caps no problem, nice and easy opening.
i have some slight drag marks on the primers, that is why i was concerned about the timing.
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If you had a firing pin replaced, that may be the problem. Is it the pin that was replaced that is dragging?
I have run into this before. I had my gunsmith make up new pins for a cheap spanish double and on those guns the hammers do not rebound, so when fired they stick out. The new pins were too long and the gun barely wanted to open after fired. I just gradually took material off the end of the pins until it would open without trouble, but still be able to detonate the primer.
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its draggin on both chambers, but who knows, maybe only the one is really causing the problem. this gun has floating pins, but they still dont release until the gun is cocked. ideally the material to be taken off would be on the back side of the pin correct? i dont want to shorten the actual end that hits the primer, or get it out of round right? or would slowly filing down the end of the pin that protrudes, maybe even just using some emery cloth, would be ok?
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I am talking about the tips of the pins.
Ideally you want to see how much the pins are hitting the primers and then go from there. It does not take much to set them off. In my case I actually shortened the amount that the pins stuck out by half of what they were to start with and it worked good for me.
Do your hammers rebound? Are the pins loose and free to move into the receiver at all when the hammers are in the uncocked position?
If you do any work on the pins you want to remove them and chuck them in a drill or drill press and while spinning you work them with your emory/sandpaper or file. That way you can gradually work them down and refine the shape. They should not be too pointed or they will catch in the primer. You want them to be a nice round end.
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they are floating pins, they will fall back into the reciever when the gun is open.
i would love to say that i have enough confidence to pull the pins out and throw them in a drill chuck. I am a very mechanically incined person, yet i have not attempted to take this gun apart myself any further than removing the trigger guard to adjust a screw that that was put in too far by the smith.
if it is something i can get done for $25 bucks or so, maybe ill just take it in. seems like this is an easier fix that the timing, which to my understanding involves bending the hammers a little, or something like that.
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What ammo are you using? Does it do this with Win AA or Rem STS? Reloads? What load and primer. Damascus barrels? Please more data. Mike
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I often find that switching to ammo with Remington primers takes care of it. Right at the end of WW-II my Father picked up an 1896-vintage Remington Model 1894 AE-Grade that was practically new. The reason it had stayed that way for 50 years was that the firing pin protrusion was way too long. He made a template the thickness of the protrusion of the firing pins on his Model 1900 that worked fine, and filed the Model 1894's pins down to that length. Then with a very thin piece of metal to protect the breech face he filed the corners of the pins round. That AE-Grade was his go to gun for the next 42 years. 
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What ammo are you using? Does it do this with Win AA or Rem STS? Reloads? What load and primer. Damascus barrels? Please more data. Mike the last time out, they were federal high brass and winchester super target. Ive never run any Rems through it. all store bought ammo Ordinance steel barrels
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