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There's something amiss here. Roy's gun shows both Paris proofhouse marks and the PM mark. The Paris proofhouse did not exist prior to 1897, and proof with semismokeless powder M (PM) also began in the late 1890's. I'm thinking that Bernard barrels were still being made into the early 20th century, although I'm not positive. If they stopped production in 1890, then the only possibility would be a later reproof.
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Bringing this one back up. Any other information on when Bernard barrel production stopped, or an explanation of why the proofmarks don't fit with the 1890 date?
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There is always the possibility of a remaining supply of unfinished Bernard barrel blanks used in the manufacture of a gun made well after the end of Bernard barrel production.
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Hi I believe Drew's first picture is from my Roblin bar in the wood hammerless with steel barrels. Unknown date of manu belived to be in the 1890's.
Jeff G.
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Confirmed those are my Roblin's steel barrels.
Jeff G.
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I have a Rieger (successeur Lefaucheux) double rifle in 8mm Lebel with L Bernard barrels and an 1898 date. WC
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Good morning Gentlemen I have another fleeting moment of time and an other question about this long arm,could some one tell me about the marks on bottom of the barrels that look like a butterfly,I just can't quite grasp the idea of what initials they may be or if they are at all.Again Gentlemen thank you ever so much for all your help,I just love this web site,you all have a good day. Thanks Roy
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The "Butterfly" is the Paris unfinished barrel proof mark. i.e. similar to the provisional proof mark for the British: unassembled, unchambered tubes. WC-
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