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I have an oil finished stock on my side by side that seems a bit light. It is finished with tru-oil. Is there anyway to make it darker? It is a honey brown right now, but would like it a darker walnut.

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Sunlight will not make it darker. You will have to strip off the current finish and add stain or dye and put on a different top coat.

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Use Behlin (brand) walnut colored Spirit Stain. It is an alcohol based stain and will penetrate the oil finish. Apply coats until you have the desired shade, let dry for atleast a day and then seal with a couple thin coats of Tung Oil or Tru Oil.

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How good is the condition of your stock? Any scratches,dents or scrapes ? They will need to be taken care of as they tend to stand out after stain is applied as the pigment tends to collect in them more than undamaged areas of the stock.That might be ok if the gun is well used and you don't want it to look new but in a relatively unblemished gun it will stand out.That is why you might want to strip it and take out any blemishes in the wood.

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Hi Pete:

RDH-45 seems to know what of which he speaks!

I have a Beretta stock that was a very light colour of blond wood that was ugly. I decided to stain it darker to improve the looks. I did make it darker but the stain caused the grain to be very very muted to a point where it was hidden. What caused this is a mystery to me as I have worked with wood all of my life.

I have been schooled in the uses of wood finishes all of my life but there are still some things that do not work as suggested!

The best advice that I can give you is to try a stain and see if you are satisfied. If not, be prepared to start over again until you get the results that satisfies you!

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Hello Pete,

Considering that locally I am far from having the assortment you guys have up there, I have had good results with Minwax Wood Finish.

I didn't know they had a "Gunstock" tint #231. The colours I have used are #224 (Special Walnut) and #225 (Red Mahogany). You have to experiment to see what you like.

I think these would work applying them directly over your finish and then giving the stock another hand or two of Tru-Oil.

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I would reccomend MinWax Spar Varnish, Gloss. It is named Helmsman.It is an oil based Spar Varnish with Uretahne in it. A straight tung oil or linseed oil finish is not very water proof or durable. Strip the old finish off, fix any dings by using a wet cloth over the ding, heated with an iron or big soldering tip ( a wide wood burning toll works good also).

Use a tooth brush and stripper to remove any finish in the checkering. Mask the checkering.

Sand with 320 grit paper,being careful not to round corners etc. Using a sanding block where possible.If you don't use a sanding block ,you are going to get high and low places where the grain is harder and softer. After you think you have it good enough.Wet the stock and immediatley dry with propane torch being careful not to char the wood.You just want to dry it immediatley to raise any grain ends. Sand lightly and repeat once.

Mix your stain with the Spar varnish. I usally fill a perscription bottle with the varnish and add one eye dropper of stain. You will have to experiment with then mix to see how dark you want the finish.

I like to mix the stain with the varnish has stain applied directly to the wood tends not give an even appearnace due to the grain in thewood not taking the stain as much as the softer wood in between.

If you use the Special Walnut it will be give it more of a red cast.If you use dark walnut,you will get more brown.

You will want to remask the checkering before proceding.

It will take several coats, with light sanding or 0000 steel wool rubbing ,to fill the wood pores alone. A stock that has had the finish strip will usually not take as many coats to fill the pores as new wood.

Once you have the pores filled, and a final sanding ( I using do a 400 then 600 grit wet sanding)you can start to apply the final coats.

Mix the Spar vanish with about 15-20% tung oil.

Apply the mixture and and let set about 10 minutes and wipe dry. Reapeat until you get the luster you want. (This may take 10-15 coats)

Remove the masking tape on the checkering and clean it out of any varnish that leaked in.

Put the stock aside for a month and let the varnish harden.

After it hardens, remask thecheckering polish out with rottenstone/felt pad to the sheen you want.

The final step is to apply two coats of the Spar varnish/Tung oil to the checkering. A light coat each time, brushed out with a tooth brush. Then wipe dry around the edges of any over runs outside the checkering.

Another product you can use is by General and called Armor-seal.
It is a uretahne varnish/tung oil mix that is wipe on finish that is fairly durable.
If you have access to an artist's air brush, you can also do a nice job of the finish,

Remember to also varnish the inside inletting and it is a good idea to remove the recoil pad and apply varnish to the butt also.





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If a stain mutes your grain you have used a pigment, rather than a spirit stain. Pigment stains are really very diluted paint with particulate pigments. Minwax is just such a stain. It will darken but not enhance grain.

Most local paint and hardware stores do not carry solvent-based stains - you need to go to a specialty woodworkers store.

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Casey do a good water based walnut stain. Potasium mangonate can also be used but some say it bleaches slowly but I've never seen this...super for darkening walnut.

Depending on the gun the varnish based stuff might not be right especially if the gun is oil finished now. So be careful. Most English guns are oil finished not varnish.

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