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We're now to the point where stories of GI's bringing home European shotguns in duffelbags are seldom first-hand, due to the loss of the vets from the "Greatest Generation". However, a friend of mine did acquire one directly from the soldier who "liberated" it. Hard to say how often it happened that way, but it certainly did happen.

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Larry I purchased a MAC SxS 16g.a directly from the Vet who liberarted in 2003, he said he was too old to use it, and wanted it to go to some one who would use it. He got a MAC,I guess when he had access to the loot, it had been picked over pretty well.


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Just to add info: MAC = Manufacture d'Arme de Châtellerault.

They also made these:


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JC I could use one of those smile


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There is not much information about what happens to French gun factories during the war.
I have been doing some search last month and this is what I found:

“Eventually the War came to Saint Etienne. On June 21, 1940 the German troops come to Saint Etienne in spite of it was in the zone of France that was euphemistically called "Free France ". During the German occupation the region I suffer some economic changes. The war affect the industrial workforce in two ways, many men enlisted and leave Saint Etienne to fight and, after the occupation, many of the best craftsmen and workmen were taken to Germany to help the 3rd Reich, in what was called "French-German collaboration". The companies had to restructure their production. There were also an effect on sporting activity as the possession and use of guns was strictly restricted. All guns were confiscated or hidden in the woods. Contrary to what you can think, most of the guns confiscated were recovered but most guns hidden were loosed or seriously hurt.
Mimard refuses to work for the occupation force and to give them access to the factory, he even passed some time in prison for that. Saint Etienne was bombed by the allied aviation on May 26, 1944.”


Hope you can find this interesting.
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Sounds like one of those computer translations to me. I'm guessing, for example, that French guns didn't become "loosed" from having been hidden, but may well have been lost.

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Sorry for my english.
I have to work it more.LOL.
I mean "got lost".
Thanks for the correction!!!!.
Any othe correction is wellcome.
Martin

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beleg2,
You have nothing to apologize for, your English is fine. Yes it's not perfect, but what the hell, I've dealt with English all my life (63 years) and my English still suffers from what I call "voodoo grammar". In college, after three semesters of Spanish, the only useful phrase I learned was "No hablo Espanol" LOL.
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Scroll down this link to see another Ideal being liberated from France, with Postoak's help:

http://www.naturabuy.com/Superbe-fusil-Ideal-314-calibre-16-Manufrance-item-333598.html


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Well done, congratulations!

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