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Re: William Evans 12 Bore
Joe Taylor #201389 09/01/10 07:11 PM
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Cavediver, the barrel flats will tell you on that late a pair if they were proofed and chambered for 2 3/4 shells. Would not be surprised if they were and suspect they are proofed for 1 1/8 ounces of shot. ....


Actually 1 1/8 ounce proofs were for 2 1/2" chambers. 1 1/4 ounce proofs were 2 3/4" chmabers. Actual chamber length would not have been marked with proofs of that timeframe. The 2 3/4" chamber stamps had to be a later reproof or newer/sleeved barrels after approx. 1925.

The other piece of advice to cavediver that has been missing so far is the STRONG advisement to have the guns checked out by a qualified Double oriented gunsmith before shooting anything with them.

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Re: William Evans 12 Bore
Joe Taylor #201435 09/02/10 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: Joe Taylor
Cavediver, the barrel flats will tell you on that late a pair if they were proofed and chambered for 2 3/4 shells. Would not be surprised if they were and suspect they are proofed for 1 1/8 ounces of shot. If so, you should feel perfectly comfortable using any modern loads up to that weight. Unless they were purpose built for heavy work (unlikely, but you will likely find 1 1/4 ounce on the flat if they were), you will find the 1 ounce target loads are a joy at the clays range.


You are being steered correctly with regard to shell pressure. In a fit of dyslexia I read your original post as 1985. If it says 2 3/4 then it almost certainly was repoofed. As others have suggested, I would keep the loads down.
Re: William Evans 12 Bore
Joe Taylor #201562 09/03/10 12:11 AM
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I just returned from a business trip and looked at the guns tonight. They do say Nitro Proof and 1 1/8 max. It does not say the chamber length, my mistake. I bought the guns from Steve Barnett in Mississippi and I know he is very reputable.They do have 23/4 inch chambers. They also have a 13 over a 1 and a 12 over C in a box and several crown stamps.
I ordered a case of the classic shells with 1 oz of shot.
I cant wait to shoot them but want to proceed with caution.
Thanks everyone.

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Re: William Evans 12 Bore
Joe in Charlotte #201564 09/03/10 12:15 AM
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Joe,
The guns were from Steve Barnetts fine guns. I did see the Cabelas guns. This is my first pair of British shotguns.
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Re: William Evans 12 Bore
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Hi, I saw the pair on Steve's site, a fine looking pair!! I think you'll find that you won't have any trouble with them. I've delt with Steve and he is an honest and upright guy. I'd feel good about any purchase from him.

The 12C in the "box" (diamond) just means that the gun is chambered for 12 gauge (or Bore when speaking about English guns). the 13 over the 1 means that the gun is bored tighter that the normal boring for a 12 bore gun (.729). This marking means the gun at the time of proof was bored to .719.

Again, congratulations on a fine pair of English guns!! Shoot them long and well.

All the best!

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