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I'm new at this. Research on my Grandfather's shotgun has hit a dead end. Information about it's history would sure be appreciated. This what's known so far.
J P Sauer & Sohn, Suhl
DRGM 130243 = Deutsche Reich Gebrauchmuster 1900-1906
SN 143655

side by side 27" barrels by Freid. Krupp A.G. Essen
stamped Special Gewer Lauf Stahl = German Special High Grade Steel
and Three Circles = Trademark of Krupp

Proof Marks:
Crown over U test mark Beschussamt 1893-1912
Crown over choked bore inspection mark
16 in a circle
16 over a 1
70 on receiver
hammerless and with a round safety button that slides on the left side of stock

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hard to tell from the pics but it looks like svelte easy to carry game gun at least equal to ah fox a grade.

Thanks PJ. I'm working on better pics. Clicking them brings up a bigger pic, but maybe you knew that. The new ones should be sharper.
Bob

Sauer 143655 probably experienced final proof between 1910 & 1912. From memory, D.R.G.M. 157556 was from January 1901, so D.R.G.M. 130243 would have been circa 1898. It was for the blade type cocking indicators and I think were activated by the hammers. The safety is a Greener(Birmingham, England) type safety. Neat straight grip stock with swivels. 27" tubes is an interesting length.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

I remeasured the barrels 26 3/4" 68cm. Not found tht length in any other posts so far. Better photos including proofs are at http://s1044.photobucket.com/albums/b443/Culitbob/J%20P%20Sauer%20and%20Sohn/

Looks like a Model 8 with a Greener crossbolt with lower scears. D.R.G.M. #130243 is for the blade cocking indicators. A little later the same model is shown with upper scears. Any chance of a pic of the area between the flats and the forend lug?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Thanks for that great help.
Bob


http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b443/Culitbob/J%20P%20Sauer%20and%20Sohn/2010_07_18017-1.jpg

Nice 16 Sauer, not sure I have ever seen Dachshunds on one.What a neat addition !

The D.R.G.M.s seem a bit loose as far as dating. So without an actual copy it is difficult to tell. The originals were probably lost during the war.

130844 - 2.24.1900
152004 - 3.23.1901
152292 - 3.29.1901
121257 - 12.15.1901

They were in effect for 6 years. Assuming that D.R.G.M. 130243 was issued in early 1900 then the number would be used for at least 6 years and then it would have been issued a serial number in 1907 or 1908. I'll look at Jeff Stephen's list in DGJ in 2004.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

This is one site that lists some Sauer patent dates and information.

http://sauerfineguns.blogg.se/english/category/articles.html

The number below the barrel serial number is 1 3 8 which could fit with 1908 for the serial number.

Bob