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#192308 06/13/10 05:06 PM
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I was looking at a reprint catalog I have and I noticed several things. First the shotshells offered in black and smokeless powders listed drams of powder weight and size of shot and guage but there is no mention of length at all? Also they mention in several different guns the description of a "Diana style" that looks from the pictures to be a steel barrel mono bloc with some type of twist barrels. Does anyone hve any ideas? Thanks, Mark

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Mark;
The shell lengths in the 1902 catalog would have been the 'Normal" length for the day. These would have been 12ga = 2 5/8", 16ga = 2 9/16" & 20ga = 2½". I am not positive if the 10ga at that point would have been 2 5/8 or 2 7/8.
Henri Pieper referred to his guns built as his original mono-block pattern as "Original Diana" & those built under a later variation as "Modified Diana". I have a Pieper hammer gun marked as Modified Diana & it has the steel mono-block (Pieper called it a steel breech piece) with twist bbls.
I think it likely those in the Sears catalog listed as "Diana Style" probably were just decaled up to that appearance & did not necessariy have either mono-blocks or twist bbls.


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Henri Pieper invented the monobloc. He marketed the original as the Dianna. In 1891 he made some changes to the lock-up and called it the modified Dianna.

Pieper had toured the US in the 1860's and was impressed with American methods of making guns. He always maintained a strong connection here. His guns appear early on in the Sears catalogs and stayed in their offerings until the 1st WW.

Here is the 1897 Sears catalog with the modified Dianna.



Here is the write up of the Dianna from the 1881 Paris exposition where the design won grand prize.



In the original Dianna, the barrels were stepped at the join.




This is my Dianna. They came in a variety of grades and engraving styles. Some very plain, others more elaborate.



Here is a picture of Pieper's "Brazil Works", his barrel making shop where a variety of damascus was made.



A few examples of Dianna's with various damascus patterns produced by the Brazil Works.





I know of 1 example that has "Pieper" interwoven into the damascus. Last it I heard, it sold for a hefty price, being one of the few examples outside a museum that demonstrates the height of the damascus barrel maker's craft. I believe it was written up in the DGJ, but do not know the date of publication.

To the best of my knowledge, Pieper never produced faux damascus.

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Pete;
I may be totally awash on this as have no actual definitive info, only a small amount of observation to go on. I was however under the impression the difference in the Original Diana & Modified Diana was in the method of joining the tubes to the block. In the original patent the tubes are inserted from the rear of the block which was bored with a slight taper. In this method there is always a step present at forward end of block
On the modified Diana guns the tubes are stepped & inserted into the block from the front & have a smooth transition with the block, though often do have decoration around the joint. The two different construction methods show quite clearly in your pics, incidently. As noted in the 1897 catalog these "Barrels are Screwed in" (from the front). In mine at least the tubes themselves extend only about half way through the block.
Some of the guns pictured in the Sears catalogs though do not carry the name Pieper & simply say "Diana Style". These are the ones I think "Pehaps" may be simply decorated to give that appearence & not be actually so constructed. Again note the bottom of the ad "There are cheap imitations of this gun with the breech ends of barrels ""Painted"" instead of screwed into the breech".


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Miller,

I have looked up both patents. The 1st is for a monobloc, the 2nd is for a more secure lockup.

Did the method of joining change over time? I am sure it did as in the interim he developed an oven for brazing barrels.

I would not be surprised to find some cheap imitation of a Pieper gun for sale back then. He went to a great trouble filing his patents, in Belgium, Germany and the US. At least those are the countries I am aware of, perhaps there were others. It would have been bad business for him to produce knock off's of his own guns, especially since he often competed for military and government contracts.


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Thank you so much for the information! So much to learn and so little time. Mark


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