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I shoot a FABARMS Sporting Clays O/U and find my felt recoil is signicantly lower than my Belgium Browning Broadway. Some folks say they have guns which kick less than others, I thought it might be a function of changes in newer designs but I recently tried a B. Rizzini Veritex which I was considering buying but I encountered significant face splap with that gun. I am looking to replace the Fabarms as the guns are no longer imported into the United States. What do you guys think?

Recoil is not determined by brand name or advertising BS. One O/U will recoil the same as another, assuming gun weight and load are the same. What you "perceive" may vary due to gun fit. However, what someone else perceives will not likely be the same as your "felt recoil". Best bet is to see if you can try various guns at the range. If recoil is a big problem for you, consider a gas autoloader like the Remington 1100, Browning or Beretta guns.

I've never had a better shooting gun than my Browning 525 32" bbl 7 lb 20g. My Beretta 682 Gold E 32" bbl 7 1/2 lb 12g performs nearly identically. I hardly notice the recoil on either

I think Jim hit the nail right on the head. Maybe the load you are shooting can be a factor as well. I shoot a 12ga. load that produces 5600 psi. and 1150 fps. Some of the Sporting Clays loads that go 1300 fps really pack a punch. My nephew calls these loads "Angry Guy Loads".

Just my two cents. Gordon

Mike
Any gun that is not a good fit will seem to have more recoil, also the weight of gun will make a difference.My advice would be to try different guns and if you cannot find one that fits you, go to a good gunfitter.
Take Care Pedler

My custom stocked 11 pound K-80 has low recoil when I shoot the 20 gauge tubes, it's even better with 410. By the way I refuse to shoot AA 12 and 20 because of the nasty recoil in standard loads. Try STS in 12 and Estate in 20 for the lowest recoil.
bill

It has in large part to do with the fit of the gun to your build. You mentioned the B. Rizinni not being comfortable for you. I shoot a B. Rizinni 20 (different model from yours, however) that is absolutely the sweetest shooting gun I have in my fairly large collection, absolutely no felt recoil at all. A 20 ga Browing in my safe (usually stays in the safe for this reason) jars me much more, with the same loads.

FWIW, G. T Thomas played around with headspace (depth of rim cut) and determined that a slightly deep-cut rim can elevate perceived recoil.

I had personal reason to look into this some years ago with a project gun that had rather deeply cut rim recess and found distinctly less perceived recoil when rims fully filled recess than when they only filled it about 1/2.

I am one of those folks with shoulder injuries that make me much more recoil sensitive that previously. In addition to usual dimensions of good gun fit to me personally, actual curvature of buttplate, both vertically and laterally, makes a big difference, as does having buttplate that does not slip on recoil. Buttplates that are flat horizontally are worst -- they really "bite".

Like many other shooters, I find my scores at 16 yard trap to be at least as good with 7/8 oz, 1200-1300 fps loads as with any 1100+ fps 1,0 oz load. This is heavily a matter of felt recoil. A couple of rounds of trap with 1,0 oz loads is about my practical limit, whereas, 3-5 is OK with 7/8 oz loads. All of this presumes I am wearing a PAST ambidextrious recoil shield.

Niklas

I think the most simple answer to the subject question --


Q:
Which target O/U produce lower perceived recoil?

A:
The gun that fits the shooter properly.




Gun fit is the answer!





Cheers
Tinker