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Man is that nice! And I have a Scott 10 bore that could use some work like that. Yes indeed. But I haven't done damaascus (or double barrels). How much of that shine is oiling? The blued barrel above looks about as shiny but not like it is oiled.
I wish I has a decent picture of the 1877 Sharps I just did last week. I like it quite a bit, but it doesn't run with that blued barrel of your's above. I polish it to a much higher finish (usually 800) and then the luster drops to maybe 600 level finish due to the etching but I use a very dilute solution and low humidity. Still, it ain't like that blue double of your's.
The browning damascus seems like a whole different ball game and I'm still working on the simple rust blue method.
Brent
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Brent they had just been finished and oiled then before I took the photo I removed some of the oil with kitchen towel they are not as shiny once the oil is removed I mix my own which leaves a nice film on the barrels I like the black and white finish you guys do I need to find the time to have a go!!
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Tried using RO filtered water on a Swedish mauser sporter once. Instead of black the rust turned a bright hard smooth orange!
I should have kept better track of what I was doing as I may have inadvertantly invented the perfect rifle finish for deer season in areas where signal orange is required.
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Oh quit your complaining, I use distilled water for Color Case Hardening, try filling up a 55 gallon drum; luckily I only change out the water every 90 days or so, colors get better the more the water gets used. One thing I found, many of the major grocery stores, Wal-Mart etc have filtered water dispensers, you buy a 5 gal container for $6 but your refills are .40 cents a gal, sure saves money when you use a lot of water.
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Has anyone used the Wal-mart filterd water for rust bluing?
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Mike, phosphates build up in the water over time as it is put to more use. Ken
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ky jon,
I don't know how you do your math. I did two barrels last week with 8 gallons. At $0.79/gallon, that is like $3 a barrel. I'd have to do a lot of barrels. A whole lot of barrels. To make that pay.
Brent
If you were in the business of refinishing barrels you would use up a heck of a lot more 8 gallons. Then the investment of a few hundred dollars would be very reasonable. A basic system will make 4-5 gallons per day and cost less than $200.00. For $800.00 you could get unlimited amounts of distilled water. If you only do a few barrels a then you can afford to buy your water for a dollar a gallon all day long. SKB should be able to justify a few hundred dollars investment in equipment to do the quality work the he does. If not and he drops me a pm I buy it for him and take it out in trade.
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Pick up a Reverse Osmosis AND DI (deionized) water system of of ebay or serch the net for the lowest cost supplier. Replace the RO membrane (TFC type) and the carbon filters every 2 years. Buy a TDS (Total dissolved Solids)meter too and change the mixed bed deionizer filter/bed when the TDS increases significantly. Buy the TDS meter first and check your water before buying the filter. A TDS below 10 is very good water in untreated form. Below 5 is common with good water and RO. 1 or 2 is nearly "theoretically pure" water and certainly good enough for Case coloring or Blacking/High Contrast Black and white Damascus.
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In Oregon the water was so pure I used it right out of the tap. Changed it after each cycle.
Couldn't think about doing that in Montana. I change the distilled after a couple of cycles, if I can keep the oil out. It's reasonable by the 5 gallon carboy, as infrequently as I blue.
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mark
I use the Wal-Mart filtered water that they sell in bulk, big blue machines (collagan or something like that). Believe they use a RO process. I buy the 5 gal jugs for about $6, refills are 40 cents a gallon, I've got 5 or 6 of the jugs, had them for a few years. Becomes cost effective rather quickly if you use a lot of distilled.
Here in Missouri we have very hard water, lots of lime, can really ruin a rust blue or CCH job.
Mike Hunter
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