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I have just fitted top and bottom ejectors for a Beretta 680 series gun.This included cutting the rim recess, fitting the side lug to the frame slits, and filing the front to time ejection.However,I notice that the front hook on the original ejectors is hardened (file test).On some other Italian guns of recent manufacture parts are hardened by heating to red and water quenching.There no extra step as in tempering and I have done so.Is this correct for the type of steel being used for these ejectors?
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I have replaced a number of these extractor/ejectors. The originals were hardened at the tip where they contact the ejector sear, and they need to be, in my opinion, to avoid wear which will through them out of time. What I always did was take the ejector and quickly heat ( even a propane torch would do) the very tip of the ejector to red and quench in oil. Unless you know the steel characteristics, I think it is always better to quench in oil. After an oil quench that tip is hard, above file-hard, so I would take polish the tip so I can see tempering colors, take the torch and gently heat the tip up to a tan or blue and let it cool. That way you have hardness but not too hard. I cannot tell you what type of steel they used, but this works for me. Polish off the tempering colors. I would only heat the very tip of the ejector to get the hardening and tempering. I would not want to harden the next step in the ejector, where it stops in the barrel recess.
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I know I am advertising my ignorance, but why aren't we buying a new ejector from Beretta? I shoot a couple of those guns and want to know what I have to look forward to.
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Hello Bill,
Just perused Cole's parts catalogue. They sell them new but they need to be fitted.
JC
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The new ones slide in,BUT no rim cut,no fit to action, and no timing fit. Also, not hardened. Coles will do the above. Good luck on having Beretta answering the phone.I talked to another gunsmith who does a high-end brand Italian shotgun (a lot)and he advised not to harden.
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William, would that other gunsmith you mentioned be Raffaele M. from Va. Beach?
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Stan, Noooooo. Another of the same brand and nice.
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