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Geno, what strikes me as being strange with this gun are what would be, or should I say, what should be the two pins on the side of the action. From the pics, they look like rivets. If they are, I've never seen that before on any gun.
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I have an early Darne v20 with the same type I believe pins on the sides. Maybe someone more familiar with late 19th or early 20th century guns can shed more light on the subject. I think that they are pins with a concave rather than convex surface. That makes more sense to me than the more modern convex surface.The zrne is #11610.
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Dozier is correct, those pins are actually concave on purpose. I have seen many belgian boxlocks with sear and hammer pins like that. It makes sense really, because you drive them out with a punch, and this way it lets you easily drive them out without maring them up. As far as who actually made the gun, I couldnt tell you. Anyone able to look itup on the internetgunclub website? Obviously its from a pair of shotguns from the engraved and gold inlayed "2" on the toplever and bbls.
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Geno,
This gun looks to be another belgian made boxlock (dimpled pins, pierced bottom plate, and generally lackluster metalto metal and wood to metal fit/engraving) many were imported to england in the white and proofed there. The whitworth tubes were available to the trade in europe and the USA. It has a very germanic look to it with the intercepting sears and side clips, as if patterned after a Sauer action. Hard to say who finished and flogged it.
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Something tells me it's Lebeau' boxlock proofed in London. And s/n looks right in this case.
It's not rivets, it's pins.
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It looks like 'Franco-BELGIAN Stalin's gun'  proofed in Britain prior to implementation of 'Merchandise Marks Act'. Unless I'm blind there is no 'not English Make' mark.  Better made Belgians sometimes wore Sir Jos Whitworths Fluid Compressed Steel barrels.  PS. Looks like unfinished Belgian gun was sent to Britain for finishing, thus the proof marks. Germans in particular backed by Govt. subsidies tried to flood English Isle with their guns,  so to protect their trade Anglos implemented above mentioned act. 
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If anyone in London made that gun, they would never admit to it.
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