Poser about the MO of "unround" small shot? - 05/24/08 02:23 PM
Exactly what degree and type of shot deformation contributes to dispersion (larger pattern) and/or "fliers" (random and useless trajectory falling outside a useful fringe) and/or "stringing" (falling behind the major mass of shot)? I ask because I want to reload a couple of lbs of small shot reclaimed from trap range for skeet.
After tumbling this stuff and getting the oxide coating off, several things come to mind which apparently didn't before. First there are no half-round or flattened shot from friction with bore most probably because our modern trap shooter uses petaled shot cups in factory fodder and reloads. "Dimpling" (impression of one shot on another caused by inertial setback at moment of discharge)is prevalent but some of the shot remains round and undimpled which I and my pair of pliers take to indicate a harder shot with a high antimony content. The few pellets of steel, copper plate and larger shot (#6,5) which I found (How'd that get in there?) all maintain their ideal spherical condition. The presumably softer shot is dimpled one to four times presumably depending on it's location in the charge (shot in the middle of the charge has more "neighbors").
I know a lot is made of "plomb disco" (flattened shot) and cubic shot for dispersion at skeet ranges. Given that small shot dimpled four times approximates the shape of a cube and assuming some salutary result in skeet pattern from that "shape", I would think that a second and possibly subsequent reloadings (altho impracticable) would tend to "homogenize" deformity (can't control position of shot in the charge) and maximize dispersion/other? What do you think?
I'm interested on this occasion only in the probable result of additional (second-time-around) setback dimpling; I understand that post wads and various exotic additions to the charge (compartmenting vanes, home-made X-spreaders, tilted card wads and even sody straws) are thought to be conducive to dispersion and have tried most of them. Being very lazy, I haven't gone to the trouble of deforming shot outside the gun. Is there really a vast difference between the "english" placed on soft round shot by deformation on discharge vs. pounding/scraping it flat? If, as I speculate, I'll get a higher % of "regular" golf-balls on second loading and firing, won't the behavior of the entire charge be more consistent in the sense of encouraging a "mass norm" to trajectories? Silly I know but your thoughts welcome.
jack
After tumbling this stuff and getting the oxide coating off, several things come to mind which apparently didn't before. First there are no half-round or flattened shot from friction with bore most probably because our modern trap shooter uses petaled shot cups in factory fodder and reloads. "Dimpling" (impression of one shot on another caused by inertial setback at moment of discharge)is prevalent but some of the shot remains round and undimpled which I and my pair of pliers take to indicate a harder shot with a high antimony content. The few pellets of steel, copper plate and larger shot (#6,5) which I found (How'd that get in there?) all maintain their ideal spherical condition. The presumably softer shot is dimpled one to four times presumably depending on it's location in the charge (shot in the middle of the charge has more "neighbors").
I know a lot is made of "plomb disco" (flattened shot) and cubic shot for dispersion at skeet ranges. Given that small shot dimpled four times approximates the shape of a cube and assuming some salutary result in skeet pattern from that "shape", I would think that a second and possibly subsequent reloadings (altho impracticable) would tend to "homogenize" deformity (can't control position of shot in the charge) and maximize dispersion/other? What do you think?
I'm interested on this occasion only in the probable result of additional (second-time-around) setback dimpling; I understand that post wads and various exotic additions to the charge (compartmenting vanes, home-made X-spreaders, tilted card wads and even sody straws) are thought to be conducive to dispersion and have tried most of them. Being very lazy, I haven't gone to the trouble of deforming shot outside the gun. Is there really a vast difference between the "english" placed on soft round shot by deformation on discharge vs. pounding/scraping it flat? If, as I speculate, I'll get a higher % of "regular" golf-balls on second loading and firing, won't the behavior of the entire charge be more consistent in the sense of encouraging a "mass norm" to trajectories? Silly I know but your thoughts welcome.
jack