What chaps my hide about this forum is someone posts an honest reasonable question and too frequently in my view, subsequent posters turn the subject to displays of childish ego, rude behavior and insults. I can assure you that no man has ever looked me in the eye and insulted me the way some of you insult each other. In my opinion there are many people on this forum who have gifts to share and those gifts would be much more enjoyable if you wrote your responses as if you were face to face with the members of this forum. It is my understanding that new topics should contain a question and mind is directed to those who find it necesary to insult each other. Do you insult your friends, strangers and associates as you do the members of this forum?

FWIW, One thing I have found is that there are vast differences in what is considered tolerable/acceptable public exchange culturally and geographically.

An example can be found in forensics debate tactics applied in the east vs the midwest. Whole nother game.

Moderating tends to homogenize the discourse.

The best strategy I have found is to just ignore posts based on the name on the left of it. It lowers the nausea considerably.

The ignore function on this forum is it's greatest attribute...Geo

I don't know if it's as much regional behaviour as reflection of a country in nervous breakdown. Cool members keep their heads. A few anonymous others in temper tantrums call for attention to themselves in their political sandboxes

You nailed it Geo. I've noticed many threads have become shorter and much more enjoyable since I've employed that function.

I have never used the ignore function, though I have been tempted. I see it as rude in cutting people off, but it might be better than extreme irritation.

The baseline of this thread is correct, many here err both in manners and discussion.

I argue for the simple approach, stick to the point in discussion, attack ideas if necessary on their merits and avoid personal attacks.

I try to live by that and have at times failed to see that something I typed could be read in a way other than I meant. I am always prepared to back step and apologize should I do wrong. And or clarify better what was meant.

Manners, Etiquette, are important to a civil society as is honesty in thought and word. It is erroneous to assume a disagreement of fact is a question of character. If one sees misinformation (falsehood) identify and restate what is believed to be fact.

We are all bound by a love a doubleguns. That bond and simple manners are to everyone's advantage

Not all gifts are equal. Exchanging superficial pleasantries face to face really doesn't translate to some higher level. I think the accounts here of forum folks meeting up beyond the computer have a good bit to do with compatibility clues, and less to do with being a double gun encyclopedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

What chaps my hide is when I put a few direct anti-gun quotes which someone made into a post, and the same few supporters of the Liberal Left Democrats who work tirelessly to separate us from our guns rise up in mock indignation. Then they get their panties all bunched up and bother Dave with demands that he remove them or lock a thread. But they don't do the same thing when one of their like-minded peers puts up a thread like this one which has absolutely nothing to do with advancing the knowledge and appreciation of double guns. Let me demonstrate:












I am typically pretty direct and straightforward. What passes for civility here is quite often hypocrisy laced with thinly veiled insults hurled by someone who thinks that they are above the fray by not naming names... as King has done here in his post. Dishonesty is not civility. Some are astute enough to see right through it:



Others see right through straight faced denial of their own words:



Another totally Off-Topic Thread... another door opens where anything goes! Let's end this with an I.Q. test:

The wealthy & well connected can get away w/o many provisions. Large government, social programs like social security, livable wages, firearms for personal defense,...... If problems arise they can hire team of lawyers, security detail,......

I don't usually get involved with insults or name calling etc but I must say that this forum has changed quite a bit since I joined in 2011. It is getting harder to find threads that stay on topic. Just when you think there is a worthwhile thread started, it seems by the time the second page is started the insults begin that have nothing to do with the topic. I know ,if I don't like it don't bother reading the threads or coming on the forum but, usually they start out fine. It's once you get into them that all the unnecessary garbage is discovered. I guess there is the ignore function but that would exclude several members who do have a lot to contribute when they aren't slinging insults.

Would someone explain to me how to use the ignore feature? I would like to use it.

If you wish to no longer see a member's posts, simply click on the member's name at the left of the post and choose "Profile", then choose ignore from the choices at the middle of the page...Geo

well, bill, it appears you take issue with some of king's posts here...if so, please do take it up with king via pm if you like...but please do not burden us here...

this thread is about behavior and not gun rights...

This forum originating in USA it would be best if people shared knowledge about SxS weapons and other classic firearms w/o attacking others because have certain political leaning and beliefs. Personally I'm not going to hold something against someone because person is conservative, liberal, Republican, Democrat, Independent, Christian, Jew, Muslim, ...... homosexual,........If one goes to THR, for example when guy from Turkey or Pakistan asks question about firearm members help them by answering question politics and religion do not come into play.

oh, and so long as we are quoting king, here is one of my favorites:

"Measuring character by a person's politics is silly. What diminishes DoubleGun are those who use it to promote a political party: you're pro-gun if you vote one way and anti-gun if you vote the other---as if our sole abiding interest is guns.

Family and friendship, harmonious and productive relationships, high standards of human values, pursuit of happiness without intruding carelessly on the happiness of others are worth more than any gun to me. Guns fit nicely but they're not everything."

Is this the same King Brown who repeatedly measured the character of Conservatives and Republicans by labeling them as hate-mongering racists, misogynists, mean spirited, hateful, and spiteful? Is this the same King Brown who repeatedly said that "Conservatism is an euphemism for selfishness."? Is this the same King Brown who frequently tarred Mitt Romney as a woman hater for his "women in binders" statement while totally ignoring the abuse of women by the extreme anti-gunners Bill Clinton or Teddy Kennedy?

As I said earlier, Dishonesty is not civility.

What Ed the anti-gun troll, and others are saying here is that it's OK to use DoubleGun forum to promote the extreme Liberal Left politics that have brought us the vast majority of anti-gun and anti-hunting legislation in this country and the world. But anyone who points that out is trashing this fine font of Double Gun knowledge, or taking up precious bits, bytes, or pixels. It's not at all surprising to see Ed so frequently supporting King since they are birds of a feather concerning our Gun Rights:









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To think that King, Ed and Jagermeister repeatedly deny that there is a single person with an anti-gun agenda operating on this forum. And some others here will do and say anything to protect that relentless undermining of our rights. THAT is the behavior that I find so disgusting on this forum. The opinions I state here are based solely upon the words and actions that are exhibited here. You can't make this shit up!

Kain't we alls just get along....

Thanks George!

And even this thread deteriorates into animosity. Unbelievable.

Keith, is there really anybody left on the board who does not know your opinions of some of the other members. Couldn't you give it a break and only post the personal diatribe once a week? Say maybe on Thursdays so I know not to bother checking the website?

I doubt you will convert anyone as most of us are well past opinion formation having lived long enough to know better. If anyone needs convincing and can be convinced it is not those who frequent this board.

Well old colonel, Ed and King and Jagermeister do not think there is even one anti-gun Troll among us. So there's three right there that still need convincing. This entire thread has nothing to do with Doubles, so why would you expect only me to conform to your standards? I might actually consider your request if I didn't notice just how selective you are in what you find unacceptable. But considering the validity of your complaint, I'd have to say you are just wasting your time.

You could always try ignoring me like Larry Clown. Oh wait... ever since he informed me that he is ignoring me, he has about worn out his keyboard responding to me, or unilaterally insulting me.

Well I guess the three members of this board you cite is worth bothering the rest of us.

I have not blocked anyone as I believe everyone on this boad to include the four you note have good things to say now and again I appreciate their input. Maybe I am too much the optimist, though I do note today I noticed a fact listed by Larry today that caught my attention reference "acceptable" eagle kill levels, I may have missed it in the past, but had I blocked him I would have missed it again.

Every thread does not have to be a right to bear arms event. I imagine the members of this board could arm a battalion, I know I could near two squads.

Take care

Not everyone here is bothered by what I post. Some tell me they agree with me by PM, and others publicly voice their support along with their own disapproval of anti-gun Trolls and their rhetoric. You don't seem to care about our opinions or feelings, so I can't imagine why I would worry about yours.

I know that the majority of guys here have an above average number of guns. But the mere act of owning or shooting guns does not automatically indicate support for the 2nd Amendment. Do you remember the extreme anti-gun journalist Carl Rowan who got arrested in Washington D.C. after shooting at kids who went swimming in his pool? How about anti-gun Democrat U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. who was arrested at O’Hare airport when TSA personnel found an unloaded .25-caliber pistol and a loaded magazine inside the garment bag he was taking through the security checkpoint? Or how about Illinois Democrat State Sen. Donne Trotter who also was charged with felony attempt to board an airplane with a weapon? There are plenty more, and there are quite a few gun owners who support and defend anti-gun politicians and do everything they can to censor anything that shines a light on what they do to take away our rights. King says there should be no litmus test, and that we should embrace the Trojan Horses in our midst... the same guy who has made literally thousands of judgemental posts and non-ad hominem attacks in his time here.

Sorry, your argument is not even a bit convincing.

I am glad the "Ignore" feature is available for those who choose to use it. I tried it, and find it to be no great shakes. I mean, after all, why would I ask my computer to do something for me that I can do myself?

Please, I'm not belittling anybody who likes the feature, we are all different in many ways. That's a good thing mostly, and I'm probably more different than most ............ which may contribute to my being perplexed at this.

SRH

Stan, it's like driving by a car wreck. You don't want to see it, you don't need to see it, but you look anyway. If it is not there you don't look...Geo

Geo, is that why you recently started a totally off topic thread that you admitted knowing would cause dissent and heated discussion? Pardon me for not being impressed by your sincerity and concern for Kumbaya here when you yourself has been known to throw gasoline on the fire.

I used to think misfires should have been dropped. I've changed my mind. I think the main board is now cluttered with misfires stuff. Maybe Dave could bring it back for a trial run and get misfires stuff where it belongs, cuz it's pretty obvious, misfires topic/threads are never going away?? IMHO, anyway.

Hello, buzz

But that will give the FAGs (Fake Ass Gentlemen) a case of the flaming fantods complaining to Dave about the stuff they never read.

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Keith, None of us can control what others say (save the webmaster from time to time through deletion). We can influence people mostly where they maybe predisposed to go. We can ultimately only control what we say ourselves and how we react to what others post.

I do not disagree some of the anti thoughts have been said by some. However given the little level of value I give them, I can't recall them. I guess I could see them again and again if I read your constant reposting of them, which gives them far greater publicity than if they were argued against at the time then forgotten. i miss misfires as most of the diatribe stayed there.

I still don't quite understand, George. Probably just a "me" thing, but, if I don't want to look at a car wreck I don't look at it. I don't need something preventing me from turning my head that direction. Oh, well, no big deal.

All my best, Stan

I have been reading this board for 12 years. I have not used the ignore feature in those twelve years. I just don't read the posts of certain members. Sometimes enough is enough. I don't want to even see the repetitive posts, sometimes the same post in multiple threads. I come here to read about double guns. That is why it is called doublegunshop.

Why it would bother you so much that someone wants to use the feature that you would post twice about it is beyond me. Just drive by and ignore me.

Maybe some of us just don't want to risk stupidity by osmosis.

I don't know why an anti would want to be here--and they certainly get my blood pressure up--so thank you Keith for posting their own words!! Second amendment issues are vital, or we will be dismantled piecemeal. I am concerned about rules which even now could impinge on my right to hunt with a drilling under certain circumstances. Imagine a shotgun only rule on public land while bird hunting--you don't have the rifle ammunition with you, but the gun IS capable of firing a rifle round during closed season for big game. Will I have it confiscated though I am only using the shotgun capability (and perhaps by the desire of the officer to confiscate an expensive engraved weapon for himself?) No, we need common sense extended to us by authorities who are firearms friendly. I do NOT understand why we would trust those who are against our rights to be sympathetic. Expose them and vote them out! And expose the useful idiots who undermine out cause as well.

SRH

Fantods. Awesome word. Looked it up last time. Thanks LR. Going to pull that one out on my son next time he behaves like the 11 year old he is. LOL

PS, I thought it was with a wall. Tuning that is. Swimmin' pools, movie stars!

After four pages the question posed in the OP ("Do you insult your friends, strangers and associates as you do the members of this forum?") has not been addressed.
Instead, suggestions to ignore the offending posts and justifications for same have been discussed. And the name calling and insults continue.

Wyobirds you are correct, I failed to directly address the specific question at the start of the thread. Though I did think the nature of my postings did represent my answer, That said in specific answer I treat friends with similar respect that I show fellow members of this board.

I do not insult them in public forums, but I will try to intelligently argue points of view when I disagree. I do not attack them personally, I argue for civility even when emotionally I would love to type a scathing attack of a personnel nature. Lastly if I give personal offense that is reasonable (simply disagreeing is not an personnel offense) I am willing to make amends.

I will always argue for civility.

I figured out the problem: The board has too many wannabe mini-moderators and too few trolls.

What'd you say George ?