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I have been lucky in my 40 years of trading sxs I had 2 great guys helping me,Russ Ruppell and Leo Bradshaw.How do we make a fair offer on a gun.I have been offered a very nice BHE with special engraving 1 frame 12 blue 75% case 25% but a really bad restock. Gun was offered at 6k offered below that.5k wood and restock and no collector value. Guy shutdown on me.I don't need the gun bit the engraving was.special.What do we do guess learn to walk.Your thoughts. Pipeliner
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Words of wisdom from Skeetx.
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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First I suppose you are talking about a Parker. So what would the gun be worth if everything was correct and in the same condition. Then compare it to his asking price. Is he already discounting the fact that it's been re-stocked? Asking prices are "starting" prices. Everything is negotiable. Then you must decide if you are willing to pay more and be able to accept it as it is. If it's going to be your shooter and it is a reasonable price then buy it. Evidently it got something to get you this far.
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Its really not about me.Buzz and had a good row about a gun he has for sale we worked it out no harm.But when you offer a fair price for a gun and the owner doesn't no the frame size on his high grade Parker that's a issue. Parker owner had a average 12 Sterlingworth which I can buy one every 3 years local in Texas for 650 wanting 2k.Guess I am to soft hearted.
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PAlUNC only wanted a best gun after 300 plus sxs 4 wife's Quatros,40 plus years offshore in the oilfield just tired. A EG Higham 2.5 for woodchuck and beater Eagle grade for ducks I am happy.
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Walk. By shutting down, I think the seller walked. I really wouldn't worry if the seller has an "issue", I would tend to look out for the buyer by walking with zero regret. I'd be realistic about me, if you hope to convince a seller that you are soft hearted. That probably doesn't even enter their thought process. Many things have gotten away from probably all of us, but likely very few really special things.
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This. Lots of fish in the sea. And, if you take the big sleep before it happens, what would it have mattered anyway?
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About the only smart thing I learned from a brother was "there is ALWAYS a better deal waiting". Now that was in regard to collector cars but it holds true for most everything. Don't always apply it but I'm only human.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Paying more than a guns true value just does not work for me. You can not pay “if perfect” prices for a gun which clearly is not perfect. Rare does not fix things. Worse with the premium placed on original condition any work done to fix or restore by definition has to reduce value because the gun is not original, pristine and high condition. If a gun has 10% bluing left, rebluing does not restore it to 100% condition no matter how you do it. A gun needing a new stock has only value as a shooter because any new stock will destroy any real collectible value. Plus it cost will never be recovered at resale. You pay 5K, then restock for 3K and then will be lucky to even get 5K at sale because original condition is gone.
Sellers always think their gun matches up with other guns even when they clearly do not. These days I just tell over enthusiastic sellers that I am downsizing my collection and pass on even making an offer. Don’t want to hurt their feelings, don’t need to make them mad and not looking to educate them or argue with them.
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