bill, you're right that OTs often tend to stray, particularly when we inject a little politics into our discussions, as this one. The magic of the board is that they don't take up the time and space of others, only those who click here. For me, it provides discussion with members of extraordinary knowledge and wide experience in a polite and respectful forum. I value inquiry and debate.

Larry, where's the freedom and choice of 47 million Americans---almost half again Canada's population---who can't afford private health insurance or private medical bills? Their choices are bankruptcy or no treatment or illness or death. We come at this from different ideologies---and fair enough---but all I see is misery and loss of productivity, not to mention loss of dignity, often without fault of their own.