Didier-Drevet barrel SN 14340(?) would likely have been 1919 per the chart on the first page. I think that "Skeetz's" DD 14204 dated 1918 chambered in mm was one of the first Didier-Drevet guns produced after the war.

Didier-Drevet canon SN 14340 (?) aurait probablement été 1919 selon le tableau de la première page. Je pense que le DD 14204 de "Skeetz" daté de 1918 chambré en mm fut l'un des premiers canons Didier-Drevet produit après guerre.

There are definitely DD barrels chambered in both CM and MM dated "1912." So I think this SN 14340 gun must be a sort of "outlier." Perhaps the barrels were stockpiled during the war?

Il y a certainement des canons DD chambrés en CM et MM datés de "1912". Je pense donc que SN 14340 doit être une sorte de "valeur aberrante". Peut-être que les canons ont été stockés pendant la guerre ?

Here is the extant gun chart from p. 4 on this line with DD dated serial numbers. (we need to post this on Passion la Chasse and get more data input). (Nous devons publier ceci sur Passion la Chasse et obtenir plus de données)

1852 - DD begins to serial number and date his barrels
1855 - Gold Medal for Barrels - Exposition Universelle des produits de l'Agriculture, de l'Industrie et des Beaux-Arts de Paris
1878 - ...????;. . .65 . mm; 18.6; Gun Maker: Didier Fusil; Sn: ?? (damas underlever hammergun)
1879 - . 3675;. . ??? . . ??; 18.3; Gun maker; ??. . . . . .; Sn: ??
1885 - ..4922;. . ??? . mm; 17.0. Gun Maker: Pondevaux et Jussy; gun sn: ?? (from page 3)
1887 - ..5275;. . 75. .mm; 18.4. Gun Maker: L.Chalet; gun sn: ??
1889 shift from mm to cm in Saint Etienne per Wildcattle
1900 - ..8975;. .6.5 . .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: Darne; gun sn??
1903 - ,,?????; . .6.5 . .cm; 18.4; Buford Armurier SN 5397
1904 - 11046; . .6.5 . .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ?? gun sn:
1905 - 11604; . . ??? . . ??; 18.4; (unclear); . Gun maker: ?? gun sn: ??
1906 - 11985; . .7 . . .cm; 17.0; Gun maker: Gerest Berthon; gun sn
1906 - 12075; . .7 . . .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ??; gun sn: ??
1907?- 12537: . .7 . . .cm; 18.4; Gun maker: ??; gun sn: ?? (from next page)
1907 - 12613?;. .7 . . .cm; 18.4; Gun Maker: Geneaux; gun sn: ; (from 4th page)
1907 - ????????;. .7.5. .cm; 19.6; Gun Maker; ??; gun sn: ??
1908 - 12740; . .6.5. .cm; 17.0; Gun Maker: ??; gun sn: ??
1910 - 13184; . .6.5. .cm; 18.4: Gun Maker: ??; gun sn: ??
1912 - 13689? . . 65. .mm; 18.4: Note the 1912 shift to mm. (page 4)
1918 - 14204; . . 65. .mm; 18.4: Gun maker: ??; gun sn: 19488; (Skeetz's gun)
..................(possibly one of the very first commercial barrel sets made by DD after Nov 11, 1918).
1919 - 14340? . .6.5 . .cm; 18.4; Gun maker; ??; gun sn:
1921 - 15034; . . 65? . mm; 18.4;
1924 - 2?871; . . 75. .mm; 19.2 (10 gauge); gun number 1080 for Didier Drevet (SIFARM) gun labeled "Excelsior."

DD looks to have been making about
-- 1852-1885: serial numbers 0 - c5000; i.e. 200 or so a year? (actually probably the normal 250 once he got his reputation going with that 1855 gold medal).
-- 1885?-1914: Serial numbers c5000 - c14,000: 250-300 barrels a year from 1885 - 1914. Didier-Drevet in an interview said he did not produce more than 300 barrels a year to insure quality.
-- 1914-1918: Sn 14xxx-14204? Sports barrel production was probably zero from 14 Aug 1914- 11 Nov 1918 for obvious reasons.

I'll repost this from above"
-- Il y a un Berthon Freres Fusil de Chasse avec Canons Gallia...Dépôt de marque 11 Jun 1912...avec chambre en cm: "Berthon Frères, fabricants d'armes a St Etienne de 1900 à 1910. Successeurs de la Maison Martin Gerest. Dépôt de deux marques de fabrique le 26 avril 1912 pour platine "Perfecta"et une autre. Deux autres dépôts le 11 juin 1912 pour canons "Gallia" et carabine "La Lorraine". Devient en 1922 Laspoussas-Berthon & Cie, puis Laspoussas & Driol en 1923. L'entreprise a existé jusqu'en 1950." Donc, la conclusion était le changement était après ce date. Mais bien sur, il est possible que il y avait des "dérapage."

(There was a Berthon Freres Shotgun with "Gallia" barrels...trademarked on 11 Jun 1912, with chambers in cm...."Berthon Freres gun makers in Saint-Etienne from 1900 to 1910: Successors to Martin-Gerest. Patent two trademarks on 26 April 12012 for the side-lock "Perfecgta" and another. Two other trademarks the 11 June 1912 for "Gallia" barrels and for the rifle "La Lorraine." It became in 1922 Laspoussas-Berthon & Cie, then Laspoussas & Diol in 1923. The company existed until 1950." Thus, the conclusion was that the changeover was after that date (11 Jun 1912). But of course it's possible that there was some "slippage.")

Last edited by Argo44; 07/20/23 07:09 PM.
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