My first double, other than dad's Ranger .410, was a Prussian Guild 16 ga., 1930's era that I bought in the mid 1970s. It was a fine dove gun. I knew nothing about low pressure loads (or shell lengths) and shot what I could find on a local gunshop's shelves. Next up was a graded and cased Francotte VL&D 12 ga. with engraved side plates with nice wood. Never could match up a model number as information wasn't as readily available as it is now. If I had to guess with what I know now, closest would be the A&F 25. I no longer have either of them. The Francotte launched a one gun theme of buying high and selling low. I've avoided that trend by not selling my guns other than the next one. Next up was a 1938 Ithaca NID 3.5" 10 that I bought from Thad Scott in either the late 70's or early 80's. I used it for turkeys when 10 gauges were the rage. I sold it to a friend later and in the past 5 years after it had been gone for maybe 20 years, traded back for it. Gil