Thank's LeFusil, I'd forgotten about Continental guns with over hung sears. Just shows you have to do some research when interested in purchasing a gun. English "game guns" in my collection have triggers set at right around 3.5 for the front and 4 for the back. nice and clean and the gun fires when my brain says "bang". Much heavier and I start to wonder what went wrong. Once you get use to a specific trigger pull range it's hard for me to adjust to much heavier pull weights. Under that range and they are way too light for hunting and the clays course. Maybe it's just too many years shooting Bullseye pistol and Highpower rifles in competition.