JohnfromUK, you are obviously an educated man and while I agree there are many things wrong with the European project the rumors of its demise are premature. People have been saying the same stuff since the start but it just keeps getting bigger. Theres good reasons why the richer countries are ready, grudgingly, to bail out the goofs. They remember what went before. Britain hasnt had foreign troops invade since the Norman conquest. Ive lived in England and traveled there a good bit. I know exactly why the leavers voted as they did. Just a short walk around Londonistan or any of the other Stans in the Midlands will show why. I think the Brits were happier with the Normans.