That's sort of my point. Here's that first RST 1 1/4 oz. 5 shot pattern shot through a .020 choke standing at 41 yards. There are not many 5's in 1 1/4 oz, and most of them are in the 30" circle. I'm definitely going to be comfortable shooting this load at 40-45 yard pheasants. I'd rather take them all with my open barrel much closer, and the vast majority will be taken within 30 yards, but I like what I see with these if I have to touch one off at long range.