Keith...We actually agree on the illegal thing as it relates to immigrants. They ARE illegal.. FACT.. The bind in the cheese is, what to do about them. I am not smart enough to say. I question if anyone has really thought this through. I think: We must CLOSE the border. Everyone, including your kids and mine, MUST show proof that they are legally authorized to work in this country. Everyone, including your kids and mine, must take and pass a drug test as part of any employment process. AND, we end up with a big "so what". Jose Jones is an illegal drug user..OK Now what...??? Jose is standing right there. What do we do with him....goes on and on...The purpose of my OP was to point out that most of these folks are valuable to us as a community, and that the impact of just kicking them out is huge...Those are also FACTS...and jOe is still stupid...some things never change..