Agree- my son-in-law Jeff has his dad's M25--28" full- they were only made for a span of about 4 years I believe, and when they came out on the market, the days of train travel for hunting trips had passed, and the supposed advantage of a take-down repeater, whether a Model 1897 or a Model 1912--

Remington got smart after WW2, and the 870 which replaced the old M31 pumpgun was a good step in capturing the pumpgun market, IMO. And the great Ithaca M37 had a solid following as well.

I believe the stocks and the trigger group were about the same for the M12 and the M25-- But the market and traditions of gun buying and ownership are hard to nail down. "Looks like a M12, but it ain't" I can imagine some older Kansas or Nebraska wheat ranchers and farmers sayin' in their Big Smith bibs and feed and seed store caps down at the elevator- when a hunting pal waltzed in and uncased the new M25 he had just bought for the comin' pheasant season--


"The field is the touchstone of the man"..