As a follow up to the gift Dan made of the butplate to Steve. I haven't met Dan but it appears he is "a chearful giver'. This will pay him many times over in life. He has made a deposit, which comes before the withdrawal. As to Michael, if I ever had someone take more of an interest in me and what I was trying to accomplish. I do not remember it. When the ebay actions were going on, there were many things I wanted, that I could have bought. But I saw a couple things on the shelf there that I had given Michael and that was enough. If an item made that shelf he really like it. That's my take-a-way. Dan you get my good guy award! Merry Christmas all!!