Kind of tough call. Most of the times, libs just flat out will not admit that the other side has a point or facts to back up a position. The spin can easily be ridiculed in many cases because the minutia is substituted for fact and used to make the case by tugging on emotions.

Every now and then, someone will let slip that there is no possible way to keep all lawful citizens safe from criminals or jihadists on a rampage, at all times. If that scenario can be spun to call for the need for more gun control because we are unsafe, then why not miss fire.

National pride could have a bit to do with it also. There is often a laundry list of short comings that are referenced and are supposed to be accepted as fact before even getting to an unrelated point. There are comparisons to glorified perceptions in banana republics. It's very common to say, it works for us thus it's a shortcoming that the US doesn't follow suit.

Do I want the tactics and spin to stop, no way! But, maybe it's on the spinners to make their case and gain converts. This is not just play, many issue are very real.