[quote=King Brown]You're on slippery ice, Ken, when you talk about morality of any kind with the smothering hypocrisy of the way constitutional and international laws are twisted for political ends every day. Look to the First and Second Amendments. Think Snowden and gun rights. There's been flagrant abuse for decades of the First, a travesty, and the Second seems partial to where citizens live.
On your notion of individual freedom and equality, you'd be hard-pressed to get agreement from African-Americans who only began to get some freedom and equality after 200 years from a reluctant government's gunpoint to enforce the Constitution. Please consider also there was nothing sociopathic about your countrymen who threw off their British yoke.
"Subjective morality behind the ideology"? Dear god, Ken. Remember the little black girl at a demonstration against segregated schools in Arkansas? The TV clip that flashed around the world? The girl, about four or five, was asked why she was at the demonstration with her parents. "Fee-dom." And the subjective morality of Iraq and 4,500 dead and counting of America's best?
So, no, there's nothing unconstitutional in Alinsky's teaching disadvantaged citizens how to gain their civil and constitutional rights, nor citizens and the NRA demonstrating forcefully and peacefully to keep them. It's a long American tradition. Gun owners have organized to prevent arbitrary intrusions on their constitutional rights.
(Your "statism" has no meaning here.)
Excellent. You've clearly missed my point. Past constitutional transgressions do not rationalize current ones. It's been the statist method to circumvent the Constitution that is the real issue. In that Alinsky has clearly played a strong role. Merely citing a "Parade of Entitled Victims" is irrelevant. The Issue, again, is the subjective morality of Religious Statism, codified by the soviets in their social science of "Psychopolitics" that has been used by Alinsky and others to circumvent the Constitution and indoctrinate their statist religious beliefs. Your responses are a good example, as they are are very doctrinal, according to the subjective morality of religious statism. Here's the text on Psychopolitics, its really a handbook on how to indoctrinate the unconstitutional, sociopathic, subjective morality and dogma of Religious Statism.
http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/brainwsh.shtml
