I won't get into the pros and cons of medicare or Obamacare. Personally, I couldn't afford $12,000 annually as Jim mentioned yesterday. My family would have been ruined financially under the US system. Last year's cataract surgery for my wife and I plus serious operation estimated cost under US system $60,000-plus if lucky. Plus the wear and tear of old age making visits to doctors obligatory. The costs I don't see because they come out of federal taxes and the services are available universally regardless of ability to pay. Personally, I've paid for everything in taxes over a lifetime of healthy living and I gladly pay for others in need. I'd rather pay for others than need the services myself. Fair enough, we feel differently about paying for others. I'd rather leave it there.