Lloyd, yes, they are both 1939 according to the Remington date codes. Some were assembled after that date from leftover parts and sold with later date codes than mine. The top gun is in original condition. The bottom one was refinished and was bought at a very low price as a potential "parts" gun for the better one. It is still a very good "shooter" as is with the Lyman adjustable choke giving it some ugly, but practical versatility.