Nial, not the place to get into a discussion of the whole WMD thing . . . but here's a hint: Stop and think about how the Americans and the Russkies did the arms reduction deal. They sent teams to watch us destroy ours; we sent teams to watch them destroy theirs. We knew Saddam had WMD's at one time, since he'd used them. And lacking evidence they'd been destroyed, the only assumption the analysts could make was that they were still there. So the "proof" worked very well with the Russkies and START. Too bad we did not have it with Saddam. As an ex-CIA guy, I thus believe . . . the more proof, the better. smile