I think that the data used for most grouse being taken at or near 23 yards is getting to be outdated with the introduction of the coyote into our covers. I find (and I am no expert but this is my experience only) is that for the first several weeks of the season, the grouse will hold a bit better because the cover is still a bit thicker. In early season I think C/C or C/IC is best. As the leaves come down I find they do not hold well, even less so with a dog (thanks to Mr. Wiley Coyote) and often they are flushing at well over 25 yards. To adjust to this I change up from C/IC to IC/M to LtM/IM (30-35 yards) as the season comes to an end.

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