Mr Katt and Mr Golfswithwolves - I definitely agree with using less powder than shot (volume-wise). Do either of you, or anyone else for that matter, put a small hole in your overpowder cards? I've read that can cut down on blowing the shot's pattern apart, but haven't tried it. I'm not new to muzzleloading rifles, single and double, but relatively new to shotguns, even though I seem to have been accumulating original English doubles obsessively. I've still not gotten patterns to the point of satisfaction. I've been waiting for Spring (when it's REALLY here)to get more range time with all of them.