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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe


Makes perfect sense to me George.


jOe, you're not the one had to go buy two more TSA locks in addition to the four I already had on the case...Geo

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Update from my recent domestic air travel (AUS -IAD). Two procedural changes since last time I flew with guns:

1) only airline employee examines guns at their check-in counter. Same at both airports.

2) airline employee escorts you to TSA agent who only wants to see a locked case. No visual inspection by agent*.

At IAD, TSA agent sent case through x-ray and likely swabbed case exterior while I waited for the thumbs-up. This process was likely done at AUS but, behind closed doors. When arrived at IAD, case was further secured with a heavy zip tie. Must have been $10 retail; $100 govt LPTA price wink

Airline folks who handle guns and ammo are all over the place... Had to show one agent Deltas policy on ammunition weight when she was adamant about a 3 lb limit. Didnt even ask to see the ammo which is supposed to be in mfg packaging.

Anyhow, actually none of this was a big deal and the Pelican case carried well and held up perfectly.

-jmc

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When I last flew with guns, the cases were required to be locked after examination. If they couldn't locate me when they wanted to inspect, they would cut off the locks or jimmy the case if the locks were integral with the case. Solution: put a key in the lock in front of the employee, but don't lock it. Wrap the case with duct tape, over the lock. If they wanted to get in the case, they cut the tape and, viola, the case was unlocked. Honest mistake, right? No one ever cut my tape or damaged a lock in years of traveling under those rules.

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The airline handlers absolutely destroyed my Americase. They are heavy and when thrown as the airline handlers do, the Americase takes it rough. I think I need to find a better case for airlines too. My last experience they looked at my gun when I checked in at airline counter, I signed a card it was unloaded, then locked the Americase in front of airline people with the card enclosed. They gave me a paper which I took to TSA after going through the security shakedown, gave TSA the paper and shortly thereafter, they told me gun on the plane and I was good to go. I try to get direct flights with firearms, if possible.


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I don't fly much with guns, but I did campaign a aircraft inspection method around the country and to Europe, with a heavy airplane component (3 long guns in weight) in a SKB 46" roller case. It made about 7-8 trips before the airline handlers ripped the handle off, which was secured by a hollow rivet of some sort. I fixed it and continued another half dozen trips with it. SKB cases are good, Pelican and similar are better. I ship expensive guns in an all aluminum takedown case enclosed in a cardboard box. There's a guy in Long Beach CA that makes/made inexpensive all aluminum cases that are good construction. http://www.ziegeleng.com

I think Negrini cases are probably ok for a single gun. I traveled once with my 4 barrel K80 in an Americase. I don't trust the built-up Americase with that much weight. It's pop-rivetted together on the inside. I suspect one toss by a handler and it would fly apart like a Yugo hit by a train when it hit the pavement.

I would never fly with a built-up wood-framed case. That's just inviting trouble. That includes all the fabric and leather covered cases I have seen. A drop from 1-2 ft might break the frame of these kind of cases IMO.

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