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Geo. Newbern #516991 06/28/18 02:49 PM
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There is no ethanol subsidy, so it doesn't go directly to anyone. Eliminated several years ago. What remains is the Renewable Fuels Mandate, under which the EPA mandates the production of X gallons of blended fuels per year. That total (around 19 billion this year, I believe) is a target for about a 2-3% decrease. That's essentially DC trying to very slowly back away from the Renewable Fuels Mandate. And eventually end it. But it will take time, because doing so all at once would have a catastrophic effect on farmers in corn country.

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I just got in from putting $1 each solar powered lights, and cheap perfume soaked hairpieces on pvc pipe "posts" around a peanut field behind my house, to try to keep the herd of deer from eating them all night every night. The perfume will last until it rains good, then I'll have to do it again. I heard five separate nesting quail calling around that one 32 acre field, all at the same time.

Imagine that...............deer to the point of being a nuisance, and quail, where I have sprayed pesticides every spring and summer, including this one, for the past 45 years. I must be hallucinating.

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Larry there is a subsidy somewhere in the chain because we are not paying the full price for it at the pumps. It may be just the taxes are reduced for it, but that is why EtOH gas is cheaper at the pump than straight gas in Iowa, but it is more expensive than straight gas in noncorn states.


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Straight unleaded is .30 MORE than 10% ethanol here, NC/SC. There is some corn production here. Nothing on the scale of the mid west. I use it in small engines and my old Jeep.

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I run 90 octane non-ethanol in all my small engines and my old Jeep, too. Anything that is carbureted. But, I paid $3.09 for it, last time I bought a 6 gal. jug.

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Originally Posted By: Stan


Imagine that...............deer to the point of being a nuisance, and quail, where I have sprayed pesticides every spring and summer, including this one, for the past 45 years. I must be hallucinating.

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Stan, those obviously must be hippy quail. Getting high on those pesticides.

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They do sing a lot.................and there's no song sweeter to my ears.

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Originally Posted By: BrentD
Larry there is a subsidy somewhere in the chain because we are not paying the full price for it at the pumps. It may be just the taxes are reduced for it, but that is why EtOH gas is cheaper at the pump than straight gas in Iowa, but it is more expensive than straight gas in noncorn states.


Brent, just a guess here, but I'm thinking it's probably cheaper in corn states like Iowa because that's where most ethanol is produced. It's also cheaper in WI, where--interestingly enough, considering that Iowa grows way more corn--you have to look for a station that sells regular unleaded without ethanol. (Even harder to find non-ethanol regular in MN.) At a lot of stations in WI, your choice is either E-10 or else the high octane non-ethanol stuff, which is maybe 50 cents/gal more expensive. In Iowa, it's always been the case that you could get either E-10 or regular no ethanol unleaded at virtually every station in the state, and minimal difference in price.

Could be there's some sort of state subsidy . . . but the federal subsidy for ethanol went away several years ago.

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